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- 02-10-2012 10:42 AM #11
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Gotcha. So, just to clarify:
1) They can both go on the same mast
2) Mounted at least a foot apart
3) The Y10-7-13 on the top
4) The AD 91XG positioned 20 feet or higher from ground level
Finally... can these guys receive radio signals? AM/FM?
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- 02-10-2012 10:57 AM #12
The AD 91XG would be on the top. This set-up will work for local FM, but it is not ideal for fringe stations. It is best not to mix FM with fringe VHF on an amplified system. An inexpensive, separate FM antenna is best for receiving distant FM stations.
- 02-10-2012 01:27 PM #13
I've triangulated your approximate location from your TVFool report and fortunately you appear to be on top of a ridge, but NYC stations are still 2 edge from your location.
I concur with the use of two seperate antennas, you pay less and get better reception.
That being said your NYC stations are still mostly in the area of 0dB NM or less which may make them only watchable at night and when weather conditions are favorable.
WABC being on RF channel 7 is comparitively strong at about 9dB NM but Fox and NBC are at -3 and -4 each so they will be less reliable.
The higher you can get the antennas the better, in order to get reliable 24/7/365 reception out of NYC you need to be about 150 ft AGL ($$$$). That gets FOX and NBC up to about 7dB NM, but very expensive.
At 65 ft ABC is +9, CBS -0.2, FOX -3 and NBC -4.
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- 02-10-2012 01:48 PM #14
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150ft???!!!!! Holy cr@p... That would demand a tower, which I did research, but sounded a bit complicated for a newbie...
65ft is probably more doable. Not sure. This is for my in-laws... I guess I'll attempt around 60ft, and see what we get/if they're happy with the results.
I'll post the results.
- 02-10-2012 06:39 PM #15
Have you considered DISH Welcome Pak at $14.99/mo?
- 02-10-2012 08:43 PM #16
I'd have to agree with Boba about Dish because unless you have the right tools like a gin pole and linesman safety belt installing a 60 foot tower and antenna is not for the faint of heart.
Raydx 10.5': Dual C ( H2H Programming ) (1) DSR-920: (2) DSR-920: (3) DSR-920
Raydx 8.5': Mover DSR-920: DMX242, Traxis DBS3800, Pansat 2700A
Unimesh 7.5': BSC421, Mover GI 450i, Pansat3500, GeoSat100c
Channel Master 7.5': Mover GI 350i: DMX241, DSR-R100b, Openbox S10, CS5000, MRX-1200
Channel Master 8': BSC421, Openbox S10: New Receivers: Traxis DBS2800 X 3ea.
Prodelin 1.2M: Dual KU: Prodelin 1.2M:
OTA: Tower 35', Ham II Rotor: (UHF) CM4251 & CM7775, (VHF) CM3617B & CM7776
Blonder Tongue MUVB-56 Distribution Amp: Channel Plus Modulators Qty 9 : FS1 Meter
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- 02-11-2012 12:44 PM #17
I must be looking at a different TV Fool because the one the OP posted shows a location near Dingmans Ferry PA with most of the NYC stations between 0 and 10 dB. If you pull up that location on a topographical map it is very favorable for long distance viewing(if you are on the high spots of the ridge above the Delaware river). That said you still need a quality antenna to keep a consistent signal on these stations. The first question I would ask is how important is WKOB channel 2 out of New York to you. If really want a shot at that you are going to need a 15 foot monster like the one you were originally looking at. Take channel 2 out of the picture and there are plenty of VHF-HI/UHF combo antennas that may work well for you. If it was me I would first buy a 91XG and do a simple installation on a ten foot pole above the roof and see what you can get. Forget about a tower until you know what you are dealing with. If you are happy with the 91XG then add something like the Y10-7-13 for VHF-HI to the same pole and run them together down one line with a Pico combiner.
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- 02-11-2012 12:58 PM #18
My mappoint program is showing this to be his location if the Latitude and Longitude were correctly given to use..
Raydx 10.5': Dual C ( H2H Programming ) (1) DSR-920: (2) DSR-920: (3) DSR-920
Raydx 8.5': Mover DSR-920: DMX242, Traxis DBS3800, Pansat 2700A
Unimesh 7.5': BSC421, Mover GI 450i, Pansat3500, GeoSat100c
Channel Master 7.5': Mover GI 350i: DMX241, DSR-R100b, Openbox S10, CS5000, MRX-1200
Channel Master 8': BSC421, Openbox S10: New Receivers: Traxis DBS2800 X 3ea.
Prodelin 1.2M: Dual KU: Prodelin 1.2M:
OTA: Tower 35', Ham II Rotor: (UHF) CM4251 & CM7775, (VHF) CM3617B & CM7776
Blonder Tongue MUVB-56 Distribution Amp: Channel Plus Modulators Qty 9 : FS1 Meter
Dish Network 322/ Family Package: Prodelin 1.2M
- 02-12-2012 03:57 PM #19
You are within a half a block from the location I used.
I put it in the mapping facility of TVFool to arrive at my approximations.Hitachi 57F59; Sony VHP-D50Q - 7' diag on wall
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Sony PS3; Toshiba HD-A3 HDDVD; SlingBox AV
Dish 1000 on 110,119&129; Dish 500 on 61.5
RS U75-R; Funke PSP.1922

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