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01-19-2008, 11:42 AM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Jan 20th, 2006
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Originally Posted by charper1 KA-BOOM (see below)
.....but like I said before, I feel I get a better overall deal & value from DirecTV and it's options and channels offered and you can justify your switch however you want as it is all fine with me. It just your running away to Dish logic is not very accurate; as in, you are not really getting away from an increase and not getting any better value. You are simply cutting your package down and saving a few bucks. Which again, is fine, its your money, you could have done the same with DirecTV mostly, but don't try to make it sound like your jump is allowing you to keep exactly what you had, what you WANTED, AND avoiding DirecTV's increase. | My purpose was never to imply that the move to Dish meant no loss of channels. When leaving Direct last January, I could have kept the few channels that I occasionally watched that were lost in the move (TCM in particular), by going with a higher priced package from Dish...but enough is enough. The money that I make means more to me than blowing a huge wad of it every month on television--and until providers come to their senses and offer a la carte options, (I'm weary, for example, of knowing that several dollars of the bill pays for ESPN each month, a service that I have no interest in at all) my opinion won't change.
For me, at this point, Dish is the more attractive/affordable of the two alternatives in the lower tiers. DirecTV can continue to try and win me back, via email and snail mail...and they've been trying on both fronts for several months now...but until the impossible happens and they offer me a hefty and permanent discount on a package such as Choice each month, the move back is simply not going to happen. The monthly fee is simply getting too ridiculously high...at this point, a similar package from Cox Cable in this area would actually be a few dollars cheaper each month...and I seriously never thought that would happen.
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01-21-2008, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wh5916 My purpose was never to imply that the move to Dish meant no loss of channels. When leaving Direct last January, I could have kept the few channels that I occasionally watched that were lost in the move (TCM in particular), by going with a higher priced package from Dish...but enough is enough. The money that I make means more to me than blowing a huge wad of it every month on television--and until providers come to their senses and offer a la carte options, (I'm weary, for example, of knowing that several dollars of the bill pays for ESPN each month, a service that I have no interest in at all) my opinion won't change.
For me, at this point, Dish is the more attractive/affordable of the two alternatives in the lower tiers. DirecTV can continue to try and win me back, via email and snail mail...and they've been trying on both fronts for several months now...but until the impossible happens and they offer me a hefty and permanent discount on a package such as Choice each month, the move back is simply not going to happen. The monthly fee is simply getting too ridiculously high...at this point, a similar package from Cox Cable in this area would actually be a few dollars cheaper each month...and I seriously never thought that would happen. | Sorry but Ala Carte will not lower prices ...
When you can package channels you will always get better prices.
Many channels that you like have other channels that they own that you may not care about that are required by the provider to place in order for the main channel you want to be viewed as well.
Back in the day when I had my C-Band I was allowed to order ala carte, for example ESPN was $ 12 per YEAR .... I bet it's alot more than that now. Your East coast Locals were the most expensive .... (you would get the same network programming with that cities news.)
Non the less, If they were to go Ala Carte, the individual channels would boost the price well past a package price, unless your only looking for a few channels.
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01-21-2008, 08:42 AM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Sep 10th, 2006 Location: East Kentucky
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Originally Posted by Jimbo Sorry but Ala Carte will not lower prices ...
When you can package channels you will always get better prices.
Many channels that you like have other channels that they own that you may not care about that are required by the provider to place in order for the main channel you want to be viewed as well.
Back in the day when I had my C-Band I was allowed to order ala carte, for example ESPN was $ 12 per YEAR .... I bet it's alot more than that now. Your East coast Locals were the most expensive .... (you would get the same network programming with that cities news.)
Non the less, If they were to go Ala Carte, the individual channels would boost the price well past a package price, unless your only looking for a few channels.Jimbo | Jimbo, my experience with C-band was 100% the same as yours. If I wanted any kind of variety of channels, the packages were always cheaper. For a while I had something like 10 channels and patted myself on the back for the money I saved, but I later decided that actually being able to find something to watch was more fun than saving $10/month.
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01-21-2008, 01:14 PM
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Of course any company will try from capitalistic point of view to get the most money out of their product or services.
There is really NO point in even comparing directv to Dish network for simple fact they both carry about the same channels.
Each company breaks up the channels in different packages at varing price levels Just like cable companies do. They are just another "cable tv" provider over wireless satellite. One will brag they have 1,000,000,000,000
HD channels and another will say " hey were cheaper". Different strokes for different folks.
Most people now days with whatever tv service you have throw 50-100 dollars per month on subscriptions.
In my personal opinion even $100.00 is not much money now days and you can't buy very much with it.
I however will not throw much money on tv subscription since I think it is unhealthy to sit for hours in front of a tv set.
It is unhealthy for your body and mind. Don't let your kids sit in front of a tv for hours either.
As long as these companies including cable companies have so many subscribers willing to pay the higher prices - They will charge it and continue to gradually increase the fare.
We the consumer control the price not them. Most americans would probably go without food before they would turn off their tv services.
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01-22-2008, 01:02 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Dec 13th, 2006
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Originally Posted by Jimbo Local cable here is still much more for the same programming.
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Not for everyone. ATT Uverse's equalivent to the Premier with all premiums.HD pack, sports pack and internet (3mb down and 1mb up) for $129/mo. No this is not a promo price.
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01-22-2008, 02:05 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Apr 17th, 2004 Location: South Jersey
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Originally Posted by Rassilon Do you have the protection plan? I guess maybe I need to try emailing another CSR and see if I get a different response to the question. If having the protection plan makes it so you didn't have to re-up your commitment on a equipment swap that might make it worthwhile to me to get. |
Yes i have had the protection plan. it has paid off for me as i live in the northeast united states so wind is an issue as my dish gets thrown out of alignment at least once a winter.
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01-22-2008, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by taylor2767 Not for everyone. ATT Uverse's equalivent to the Premier with all premiums.HD pack, sports pack and internet (3mb down and 1mb up) for $129/mo. No this is not a promo price. | Too bad you can get only 1 HD stream into the house at a time, until that's fixed to unlimited I don't care how much cheaper it is.
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01-22-2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rad Too bad you can get only 1 HD stream into the house at a time, until that's fixed to unlimited I don't care how much cheaper it is. | That's what they advertise, but Scott said when he had it that he got two hd streams.
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01-22-2008, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by raoul5788 That's what they advertise, but Scott said when he had it that he got two hd streams. | Sorry but I don't recall Scott saying that, just the standard you can record one while watching something recorded earlier. Even two doesn't cut for me, I have three HD sets and three HD DVR's, so I could have 9 different HD programs going at the same time.
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01-22-2008, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by paulman182 Jimbo, my experience with C-band was 100% the same as yours. If I wanted any kind of variety of channels, the packages were always cheaper. For a while I had something like 10 channels and patted myself on the back for the money I saved, but I later decided that actually being able to find something to watch was more fun than saving $10/month. | What I ended up doing was talking to my service provider (TurnerVision at the time) and telling them that they did not have a Sport package available suitable for the normal Sports fan.
I told them the channels that I wanted and added a few of the others, Discovery and such , added the Denver 5 and told them that, That is what I wanted, was also able to get the East Coast locals as well.
Denver 5 cost about $ 60 back then, but it was worth it as I could time shift that way ...
My pakage ended up being about $ 4-500, the next year I told them that I wanted exactly what I had the last year and asked if they could make a package out of it, and they DID, saved me about $ 100 a year and they started selling that package, at least the Sports part of it.
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