Waiver, Why?

**paulyme** · 09-03-2004 07:08 PM

I am just curious, why does DTV need a waiver (and why must I wait so long?) from CBS to receive their HD in my area when I see on this forum, that in my area (Phila metro area) others are already receiving it? Is there not a blanket waiver for each area that DTV can have on file? I called and DTV said the waiver request could take 45 days.

Thanx,

Paulyme

**meStevo** · 09-03-2004 09:09 PM

Because its the legal hoops CBS makes DTV go through.

**stevesmall** · 09-03-2004 10:50 PM

if they are receiving locals in hd in philly area they are getting it over air, not thru DTV
Network feed from NY is recvd via DTV

**Becket** · 09-04-2004 09:51 AM

Does anyone know the criteria for getting a waiver? I would have thought that you had to live in a rural area that doesn't receive a signal, but if you can get a waiver in Philly, maybe there's hope for me to get a waiver in a DC suburb?

**TNGTony** · 09-04-2004 10:07 AM

I'm not sure what the requirements are for DirecTV, but for Dish it's like this:

1) If you live in an area where CBS itself owns the CBS affiliate AND you are outside the grade B signal area of any other CBS affiliate not owned by CBS, you automatically qualify to get CBS HD.

If you live in an area where CBS itself owns the CBS affiliate AND you are INSIDE the grade B signal area of any other CBS affiliate(s) not owned by CBS (no matter where it comes from), you do not qualify to get CBS HD unless the "independent" CBS affiliate(s) grant you a waiver.

2) If you live outside the grade B signal area of ANY CBS affiliate, you automatically qualify for CBS HD.

If you can receive a grade B signal from ANY CBS affiliate not owned by CBS, the CBS affiliate(s) in question must grant a waiver before you can get CBS HD.

See ya
Tony

**waltinvt** · 09-04-2004 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by TNGTony

I'm not sure what the requirements are for DirecTV, but for Dish it's like this:

1) If you live in an area where CBS itself owns the CBS affiliate AND you are outside the grade B signal area of any other CBS affiliate not owned by CBS, you automatically qualify to get CBS HD.

If you live in an area where CBS itself owns the CBS affiliate AND you are INSIDE the grade B signal area of any other CBS affiliate(s) not owned by CBS (no matter where it comes from), you do not qualify to get CBS HD unless the "independent" CBS affiliate(s) grant you a waiver.

2) If you live outside the grade B signal area of ANY CBS affiliate, you automatically qualify for CBS HD.

If you can receive a grade B signal from ANY CBS affiliate not owned by CBS, the CBS affiliate(s) in question must grant a waiver before you can get CBS HD.

See ya
Tony

Thanks Tony,
As usual, good explaination. Could you also elaborate on how "outside the grade 'B' signal" is determined.

Do both "D" & "E" use the same method ?

How much does the topography of a particular street address come into play?

I know my address doesn't qualify the same with "D" as it does with "E".

WaltinVt

**ckudrna** · 09-04-2004 05:03 PM

I am not sure what all the fuss with waivers is as well. I have never had to deal with anything involving a "waiver" for any channel. I called directv to get me going with CBS HD in Chicago and it was turned on in 2 minutes. No waivers or whatever that milarki is.

It is a stupid set of legal hoops, I am just glad I have never had to jump through them.

**Becket** · 09-04-2004 07:09 PM

DirecTV has a page on their site that will tell you the grade based on your address. I found it by clicking on the "more info about CBS HD" link in the DirecTV packaging page describing the local channels.

Stinks for me ... Grade B and A channels for all, but the indoor antenna I tried couldn't pick anything up.

**ckudrna** · 09-04-2004 08:09 PM

Is this the tool?

http://directvdnseligibility.decisio...dressEntry.asp

I have all Grade A and one grade B, CBS is grade A, but they switched my CBS HD on right away without any talk of any waivers or what have you.

I can't pick up anything other than fuzzy garbage with an antenna for analog signals, but my Silver Sensor picks up everything in digital with high 90% signals. Kind of awesome how digital works so much better than analog.

**paulyme** · 09-04-2004 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by ckudrna

Is this the tool?

http://directvdnseligibility.decisio...dressEntry.asp

I have all Grade A and one grade B, CBS is grade A, but they switched my CBS HD on right away without any talk of any waivers or what have you.

I can't pick up anything other than fuzzy garbage with an antenna for analog signals, but my Silver Sensor picks up everything in digital with high 90% signals. Kind of awesome how digital works so much better than analog.

Is Silver sensor the indoor HD antenna by Zenith. I was thinking of buying one. Does it work well and was it easy to install?

Thanks,
Paulyme