DirecpTV pixilation problem

[yammy750]

tx_dude

I hope that works for me to, because if it doesn't I will be forced to go back to Dish network. I dont want to switch providers again!

[yammy750]

I had a tech guy out again. This time they replaced the Dish and I am still having pixilation, so what do I do now?

[The Tate]

Is the pixilation in the images or is it like right before the signal cuts out before a storm.

[rockaway1836]

Originally Posted by emu1

I have the H20 and 5lnb and get pixalition on fast moving HD contect. Thats because of the frame rate from D*. My SD channels just look bad sometimes.

Are you watching this fast moving content on stations that are in 1080I?

[Jhon69]

It might help,to have a authorized TV tech,come out to your house.He should be
able to help with suggestions,and adjustments,to your system.I did,and their well
worth the money.I just switched from E*,to D*,because Total Choice,was a better
deal,than AT 120,and the picture looks the same to me.I have a 50" Phillips Magna
vox RPTV,and after I had the tech adjust my TV,I don't think I want HD,I already
see enough moles,and bumps on peoples faces,and bodies,the thought of seeing
even more scares me.

[vurbano]

Originally Posted by yammy750

I had a tech guy out again. This time they replaced the Dish and I am still having pixilation, so what do I do now?

I cant believe all of the bullshit your being fed. You should cancel ASAP and refuse to pay a penalty. Any macroblocking and perhaps pixelation is most likely a result of HDLITE if its not a signal strength issue. HDlite is a combination of over compression, downrezzing and reduced bandwidth. EVERYONE sees it occasionally, some just wont say it. The problem is some of the people giving you advice here are D* dealers and installers on this forum. The worst channels are HDnetmovies and showtimeHD that run at DVD bitrates of below 9.8 mbps. Sometimes around 7 mbps. Whereas a non multicasting OTA HD signal runs at 19 mbps. Take a look at the average bitrates here: http://www.widemovies.com/dfwbitrate.html
Your best bet is DISH network at this point in time. I would advise you to PM Sean Mota, one of the moderators.

[vurbano]

Originally Posted by emu1

I have the H20 and 5lnb and get pixalition on fast moving HD contect. Thats because of the frame rate from D*. My SD channels just look bad sometimes.

Its not the framerate. Its overcompression and reduced bandwidth. The picture would hold together just fine at a higher bitrate.

[emu1]

It would also hold together just fine at a higher frame rate. 30 frames a second is not enough for fast moving images to keep up with. Slow moving object on my 65" screen look amazingly good. Something moves fast across my screen and its pretty bad.

Also someone earlier asked why we have D*. I switched because for my area, HD locals go live in April where as with E*, they are not even scheduled this year. Who at first glance wouldn't switch providers to get their locals in HD when you can't get them OTA. But now that I have it in my house, I have to admit that E* picture quality is 10x better. I have a 65" HDTV and D*'s service is just not what it should be. I don't want to sound like I hate D*. They have their advantages of E* as well, but when it comes to picture quality, they have fallen behind.

[logixrat]

I have a D* installation scheduled today, so I can't comment on their PQ yet. However, I have had E* in the past. About 3 years ago when I first bought my big 55" RPTV (standard definition) I thought E* was superb PQ; however, I ended up cancelling because customer service sucked and I was tired of their BS on moving charges, receiver upgrades, etc.

Fast forward to Jan '06. I decided to try E* again as I'm tired of the analog cable signal which is about 70% of the channels I watch. I give them a try, and get it installed just a few days before the big Rose Bowl football game between USC & Texas. I am hyped and ready for a great picture, and then comes my worst nightmare. My PQ resembled that off a computer video that you enlarge too big and it looks blurred and blotchy. It was so bad that when the ball was thrown I could not track it in the air. I tried the reception on my bedroom TV (27") and while it was better because of the smaller picture, it was still very present.

After several calls to customer service and numerous repair techs to my house, I was finally able to cancel my contract w/ no penalty after the fight of my life. I was already pissed because of the bad PQ but because the way E* handled my request to cancel because of THEIR quality I will never use them again. I will go back to cable first, which is where I'm at now until my D* installer arrives.

Personally I just don't think there is a *great* cable/satellite provider out there yet. People need/want so much more, and while each provider seems to offer a slice of the pie to their customers I don't see any that offer the whole pie. It's probably a matter of picking the less of evils. I don't have HD yet, so I don't have to fight that battle, but when I do upgrade I plan to use OTA reception. And then when HD is a standard vs. bastard child as it is now I will upgrade my equipment or switch providers at that point. Honestly I don't see it happening for a few years.

[vurbano]

Originally Posted by logixrat

Personally I just don't think there is a *great* cable/satellite provider out there yet.

There was. It went out of business though. Perhaps Verizon FIOS will be the next one.