Dish Network Retailer Chat Recap - July 10, 2007

**ChetK** · 07-11-2007 09:59 AM

Hey, let's hold off on talking about hacking the encryption until AFTER it's released so that we actually get it.

If the content providers are afraid of a hack, we'll never see the functionality added.

**Jason Whiddon** · 07-11-2007 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by ChetK

Hey, let's hold off on talking about hacking the encryption until AFTER it's released so that we actually get it.

If the content providers are afraid of a hack, we'll never see the functionality added.

How about lets not talk about hacking it at all?

**TuxCoder** · 07-11-2007 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by riffjim4069

I just checked out all the DishHD channels and they honestly can't get any worse.

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

I thought you didnt have Dish anymore Jim.

I see what happened. The "you are not subscribed" error message is not good HD.

**BobMurdoch** · 07-11-2007 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

BTW folks, I would like to ask a favor if I may. I am seeing a lot of this report being posted on other websites, which I have no problem with (the internet is for sharing information) but please if you post it somewhere please post that the info came from SatelliteGuys.US.

Believe it or not a lot of folks don't know about us yet and by posting a link or the url helps us grow and brings more great members to our family.

Thanks!

I saw a link to SatGuys re: the new HD on E* on Engadget (Google News pointed me there with my daily compilation of Dish Network news)

**ChetK** · 07-11-2007 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by elwaylite

How about lets not talk about hacking it at all?

I agree. I was being somewhat sarcastic.

**Jason Whiddon** · 07-11-2007 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by ChetK

I agree. I was being somewhat sarcastic.

Sorry, my mistake

. It still amazes me that some guys openly talk about hacking like they do.

**digiblur** · 07-11-2007 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by smokey982

Are all 4 port switches basically the same, or does someone recommend a certain brand??

Any new switch you buy should have auto-negotiation/auto-sensing ports. Cheap, easy, and plug and play.

**navychop** · 07-11-2007 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by TuxCoder

I see what happened. The "you are not subscribed" error message is not good HD.

**Tom Bombadil** · 07-11-2007 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

Dishes MPEG4 HD channels look GREAT.

Unfortunately, I must disagree. I have recorded three movies off of MPEG4 channels over that past 3 weeks and all three were very mediocre on PQ. Contour banding, average sharpness at best, macro-blocking on intense colors, etc.

Also I performed some close comparisons of the Stars Wars movies off of Cinemax HD vs the same movies off of HBO HD, and the HBO versions were definitely better.

If one could compare the same program recorded off of the old HDNET from the summer of 2005 vs a current MPEG4 channel, you would see a significant fall-off in PQ. We're not talking about something being 99% as good, I'd say the current MPEG4 channels are about 75%-80% as good as the old HDNET.

**ChetK** · 07-11-2007 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Unfortunately, I must disagree. I have recorded three movies off of MPEG4 channels over that past 3 weeks and all three were very mediocre on PQ. Contour banding, average sharpness at best, macro-blocking on intense colors, etc.

Also I performed some close comparisons of the Stars Wars movies off of Cinemax HD vs the same movies off of HBO HD, and the HBO versions were definitely better.

If one could compare the same program recorded off of the old HDNET from the summer of 2005 vs a current MPEG4 channel, you would see a significant fall-off in PQ. We're not talking about something being 99% as good, I'd say the current MPEG4 channels are about 75%-80% as good as the old HDNET.

But data rates are lower too. I don't care what encoding format used, less data is never better.