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    I've installed international customers (needing 4 signals) at runs of 150' without a problem. That's why I suggested one straight line with as few breaks as possible...then it can be diagnosed backwards if it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farmsatguy
    As an installer, I've gotta know what type of fittings you used when you cut the Radio Shack cable from 100' to 75'?
    I used a crimp-on connector. This cable and connections worked fine when I tested it to a 301 rcvr.

    Quote Originally Posted by farmsatguy
    Have you tried running one length of cable straight from the DPP44 to the receiver area (through a window maybe for testing purposes); hook in the separator then use your 2 two foot jumpers to the 921? 75'...100'...doesn't matter at this point.
    That's exactly what I did after it didn't work with the existing RG59, with the new run of RG6, and it continued to not work!

    Quote Originally Posted by farmsatguy
    Is all the cable swept tested for 2150? It MUST be at this rating.
    This I do not know for sure. It's RS RG6 quad-shield. The fact that it works fine with the 301 suggests it's ok. The only thing I can think of is that maybe by the time it reaches the end of the cable the signal is at its lower-limit, and the addition of the separator drops it below that, hence without the separator it's ok, with the separator it isn't.

    The only way to check this is to get 75' of what is known to be "the best RG6 cable out there" and try that. If it still doesn't work, it's either a bad separator or a design limitation.

    Buying 75' of RG6 gets expensive, anyone got some they can send me which I will return if it still doesn't work?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by farmsatguy
    I don't see it as being the receiver as you can put the separator a foot away from the 44 and it works!
    Exactly, agreed.

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    I'm starting to lean towards a bad separator that's causing too much loss on it's #2 output (assuming you've tried different DPP4 ports - IIRC, you have).

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    Bad seperator or the switch is too far away from the rcvr to support the splitter.

    You have 75' of signal loss before the seperator. Once you hit the seperator you're going to have some loss getting through that. After that each length of wire counts for loss as well. 10 feet each may mean 95 feet total loss, plus the loss from the splitter.

    Move the switch up 30 feet and try again. I bet it'll work.

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    Is there a need for an RG6 DP44 cable set?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski
    <edited>So I hopped into my truck and went to Radio shack, where I purchased all 6 of their 1 Foot RG-6 cables they had in stock. My cost came to $25. I needed to go to Best Buy to get more jumpers. At Best Buy I got three 3 foot jumper cables for $4 each.

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    I am considering on making a special RG6 jumper cable set with high end compression connectors for sale to satelliteguys users. I'd like to know how many and what lengths. I can make them up and deliver them by Priority Mail in 3-4 days. PayPal would be accepted. Cost delivered would be equal to or less than so so quality Radio Shack cables. And, there would be no hunting and driving around looking for them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleSimon
    I'm starting to lean towards a bad separator that's causing too much loss on it's #2 output (assuming you've tried different DPP4 ports - IIRC, you have).
    Quote Originally Posted by bcshields
    Bad seperator or the switch is too far away from the rcvr to support the splitter.
    Satelliteguys are sending me a replacement separator - then we can rule that out.

    If it still doesn't work, we can conclude that using a separator reduces from the "standard" DP specs the effective length of cable that may be used, because of the additional loss introduced by the separator. Seems obvious now really!

    Quote Originally Posted by bcshields
    Move the switch up 30 feet and try again. I bet it'll work.
    That's logically what I'm doing when I put the separator at the switch, and yes, it does work! Moving the switch is not an option unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike500
    I am considering on making a special RG6 jumper cable set with high end compression connectors for sale to satelliteguys users. I'd like to know how many and what lengths. I can make them up and deliver them by Priority Mail in 3-4 days. PayPal would be accepted. Cost delivered would be equal to or less than so so quality Radio Shack cables. And, there would be no hunting and driving around looking for them.
    Good idea! If you get overloaded, I could pick up the "slack" so to speak.

    I think an assortment of 4" to 12" jumpers would be right - the exact ones needed for switches, etc. will vary by installation.

    That being said, a pair of 4" jumpers will work just fine for the separator. A diplexer would be OK with a 4" and a 6" - if 90 degree connectors can be found. If you're cascading switches, 6" is probably good for most.

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    Does anyone still have the like to the DPP LNB Reviews? Since it became unstuck, I can't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski
    was kind of shocked to see that instead of just 4 satellite locations displayed there were actually 5! I guess the DP+44 can be cascaded for a total of 5 satellite locations
    dpp 44 switch and a dpp twin with the extra orbital slot can not do 5 locations... when hooked up to a 44 switch the extra orbital slot (dpp 21 switch bulit in to the lnbf) in the dpp twin automatically shuts its self off.. so you wont get that 5th orbital location..

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    I thought the DPP Twin actually had something like a DP32 switch built-in.

    In any event, a DPP Twin and DPP44 would NOT be the way to get 5 birds.

    How about a DPP44, a DP Single or Dual LNBF, and a DP21? That should get-r-done.

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