Charlie speaks..... Finally!!!

**richiephx** · 11-13-2007 10:00 AM

Personally, I could care less if E* adds anymore not so HD channels. If the new channels are like some that already exist, like History, TBS, A&E and TNT (to name a few) they can keep them until they stop distorting the picture and have sufficient HD content. I have more channels now that I can watch. I can wait.

**rad** · 11-13-2007 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Poke

Right now there not that many ""National Networks"" that have gotten a HD version of their channel up. Direct only has about 5-6 National Channels in HD that Dish does not have.

Taking a quick look, D* has the following national HD channels that E* doesn't (and I didn't include any of the RSN's or others that haven't shown any HD programming yet).

Sci-Fi, USA, FX, MGM, Smithsonian, HBO-West, Starz-West, Starz Comedy, Starz Edge, The Movie Channel, Showtime Too, Showtime West, CNN and The Weather Channel, that's 14. You can kick it to 16 if you include FBN and CBNC, which while aren't really showing HD content they are sending out a 16:9 HD signal and using that extra screen space for more data then you get on the SD channels. Either way, D* has more then 5-6 national HD channels then E*.

**MikeD-C05** · 11-13-2007 10:07 AM

What I want to know is what other 25 channels is DIrectv going to launch between now and January in hd ? THey keep saying 100 channels by years end. I would also like to see DISH launch some of the channels that Directv has now in hd like USA, SCi-Fi, FX and any premium movie channels. And I know about the 2 new sats that DISH was supposed to launch next year but when has it been 3 new sats? Will this be for the new all mpeg 4 service that Charlie promised last May or is that the vip service he already launched this month for cable? And how is that going to happen if ATT buys them? Charlie hasn't really answered any real questions he has just made us all ask more.

**Stargazer** · 11-13-2007 10:21 AM

Sucks for Dish that they are going to get a LOT less for their company after the press release and the drop in stock values.

If Dish cannot offer what DirecTv does as far as content goes then they need to offer the customers something else such as longer term discounts, long term free movie packages, etc. Maybe this would also help keep churn down for existing subscribers. If they can do that then they would not need to add as many new subscribers to see the same amount of growth as they have before and they would not have anymore money in keeping their existing subscribers as they would adding new ones. Perhaps 2 years of free HBO when you sign a contract to keep their service for 2 years. I think that is worth the $5 per month they pay HBO for their programming.

**Poke** · 11-13-2007 10:27 AM

Well I think Dish will offer what Direct has and Dish HD Hardware is better for most part than Direct TV. Heck Direct was behind on HD Content for so long they only had one way to which was to play catch up. So I think Dish will be fine.

**Van** · 11-13-2007 10:33 AM

I think Charlie has lied about how long they have been doing badly operationaly, it goes back to a year and half / two years atleast and the cancer is deeply entrenched in every aspect of the company. If he wants to save face and get things back on track then he should do some house cleaning and go back to the basics working with what he knows and what has worked best for him and Dish in the past.

**RandallA** · 11-13-2007 10:45 AM

IMO, E* began its decline when they began implementing bogus charges for everything just like the Cable companies do. They went away from their business model that made them a growing company. They also forgot about what made their customers happy, which was more and better TV for less. Now they're more like less and worst TV for more.

**RealityCheck** · 11-13-2007 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by Poke

Well I think Dish will offer what Direct has and Dish HD Hardware is better for most part than Direct TV. Heck Direct was behind on HD Content for so long they only had one way to which was to play catch up. So I think Dish will be fine.

Well the issue is identical. Directv had to get its new satellite launched, and now it is ECHOSTAR that has to get its new satellite launched. Simple really. The 2 questions are WHEN can they launch? I say not before may at the earliest, so they won't begin to catch up until July IMO. Second question is how many don't stay around to see how long it takes? I say they have another horrible quarter compared to directv.

**iceondsom** · 11-13-2007 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by richiephx

Personally, I could care less if E* adds anymore not so HD channels. If the new channels are like some that already exist, like History, TBS, A&E and TNT (to name a few) they can keep them until they stop distorting the picture and have sufficient HD content. I have more channels now that I can watch. I can wait.

Talk to the programmers about this gripe. Those guys are upconverting SD content and passing it off as HD. Doesn't matter which company delivers that to your home, it is still not true HD.

**iceondsom** · 11-13-2007 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Van

I think Charlie has lied about how long they have been doing badly operationaly, it goes back to a year and half / two years atleast and the cancer is deeply entrenched in every aspect of the company. If he wants to save face and get things back on track then he should do some house cleaning and go back to the basics working with what he knows and what has worked best for him and Dish in the past.

What might that be?