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    Yeah well could effect Direct and Dish plus any others who use this hardware..
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    Again Dish's plans do not need to be altered (that much) Echostar 3 still has life to it, the delay could cause a delay of "some" of the planned channels because of the missing 4 transponders that AMC14 would have given them.

    Other then that I am hearing the "Eastern Arc" plans are moving ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poke View Post
    Yeah well could effect Direct and Dish plus any others who use this hardware..
    It will indeed affect others besides DISH - but that is what is relevant to this forum.

    It should NOT affect DirecTV at all though, the only scheduled launch right now is the SeaLaunch one set to go up any day now. The D12 launch for 2009 has not been announced for any launch vehicle yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navychop View Post
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    The Russian Proton is one of the most heavily used, most reliable unmanned launchers ever made, with over 325 launches.

    Sea Launch also uses Russian launchers.

    One of the two "latest and greatest" U.S. satellite launchers uses rocket engines based on (almost identical to) a Russian design.

    Russian space hardware, especially launchers, is excellent.

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    Thats good to hear Scott. Yeah I wonder if they will try to move some of their other launches ahead of schedule now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski View Post
    Again Dish's plans do not need to be altered (that much) Echostar 3 still has life to it, the delay could cause a delay of "some" of the planned channels because of the missing 4 transponders that AMC14 would have given them.

    Other then that I am hearing the "Eastern Arc" plans are moving ahead.
    I wasn't only referring to HD plans, but if read correctly, these new sats were to be part of the all MPEG4 mirrored DISH services - weren't they? Where they were planning to have 3 new birds operational by end of December '08, they may have only 1 (E11). That has to cause some big changes in the game plan, don't you think?

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    Not at all.

    The other two satellites are just going up in place of other existing satellites which still have plenty of life in them. The new satellites give them some better performance (which is needed especially for 129) but things can operate like they are now for quite awhile with no real new issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandallA View Post
    "Russian components, American components, they are all made in China."
    Great quote (Though it's Taiwan)... They shouldn't have any problems getting it into orbit but I think the slingshot method used for the Asian satellite would be best as it uses less fuel and more gravity. Either way it will provide at least five years which is enough for AMC to start building another one to replace it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski View Post
    Not at all.

    The other two satellites are just going up in place of other existing satellites which still have plenty of life in them. The new satellites give them some better performance (which is needed especially for 129) but things can operate like they are now for quite awhile with no real new issues.
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    Yeah lets just hope the other sats get up ok..
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