VOOM Goes BOOM - update Dish Drops all 15 VOOM Channels

**riffjim4069** · 05-30-2008 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by davelip75

You made me laugh...

**Mojo** · 05-30-2008 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by davelip75

D@mn you!!!

Now I got Pepsi all over my new Topaz LCD screen

**lern4483** · 05-30-2008 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by davelip75

BEST POST OF THE DAY!!!

HOW ACCURATE!! lol

**Sammy033** · 05-30-2008 07:35 PM

Humongous Dump channels?

**nsps** · 05-30-2008 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by M Sparks

This whole thing is fishy. There's so much detail on everything DISH did wrong (and I do believe they did do some things wrong), but then it skates over the whole issue of the programming and blames it on DISH in a way that makes no sense.

OK, here's a theory. The numbers are hypothetical, but the idea could be applied regardless. (And I have studied programming in college, though it was long ago. I still have a texbook that explains this stuff...)

Let's say this "Section 4" says a film can be shown multiple times in a 48 hour period (to allow for weekend marathons, like Monsters often did), but then cannot be repeated again for at least 10 days. Films are licensed for a window of time -let's say 60 days- not for a number of plays.

If they showed 6 movies rotated for a 48 hour period, they would need to have 30 movies available during that 10 day period. That doesn't mean 30 different movies every 10 days. They could run the same 30 movies the following 10 days. But the way it's set up, windows are always opening and closing. So one movie may get retired for a short time, and another one comes back at the same time.

So, say Monsters starts licensing fewer movies. They only have 15 movies available in any 10 day period. They switch to rotating 5 movies over a 48 hour period. On a daily basis, viewers wouldn't notice much of a change. They see 5 different movies each day. True, they come back more often, but there's still variety every day.

At that rate, movies would repeat every 6 days. Dish says "You can't repeat them for 10 days". Voom doesn't have enough movies to do it that way. So they have to cut back on how many movies they show in a 48 hour period.

The other half of it was how they had switched to older movies. So that's another point...or perhaps both are true. DISH forced them to buy more movies to meet the commitment, so they switched to cheaper movies.

But there's no way DISH forced them to buy cheaper/fewer movies. DISH tried to enforce the rules on repeats, and Voom got around it by showing fewer and cheaper films each day.

Scott, just say the code word if this is what you heard in that meeting.

Makes sense to me.

**Sean Mota** · 05-30-2008 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by davelip75

I can't believe it that you find something like this

**bubba04** · 05-31-2008 12:37 AM

Ever since we lost VOOM, I've been wondering just what it is I am going to do. I feel that TV in HD is becoming irrelevant. I mean really, satellite and cable providers are compressing the heck out of these channels, and now 15 of these HDlite things are gone. Am I to complain? Is the game really to get me to beg to have these HDlite channels back, thereby getting me to accept inferior picture quality? I do miss VOOM, but had these channels been delivered to me in superior HD quality, I would be screaming bloody murder right now!! As it is now, I am watching very little TV in "HD", and I look to my HD DVD and BluRay collection to deliver on the promise of what High Definition video and sound is supposed to be. HD TV is just not important to me anymore. Now that's what I call irrelevant.
Bubba04

**whatchel1** · 05-31-2008 03:13 AM

+ 1 That picture makes the whole thread worth reading.

**lern4483** · 05-31-2008 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by bubba04

Ever since we lost VOOM, I've been wondering just what it is I am going to do. I feel that TV in HD is becoming irrelevant. I mean really, satellite and cable providers are compressing the heck out of these channels, and now 15 of these HDlite things are gone. Am I to complain? Is the game really to get me to beg to have these HDlite channels back, thereby getting me to accept inferior picture quality? I do miss VOOM, but had these channels been delivered to me in superior HD quality, I would be screaming bloody murder right now!! As it is now, I am watching very little TV in "HD", and I look to my HD DVD and BluRay collection to deliver on the promise of what High Definition video and sound is supposed to be. HD TV is just not important to me anymore. Now that's what I call irrelevant.
Bubba04

Very sad statement. But I feel your pain. Dish seems, in my opinnion, to have gone in reverse.

HD seems not to be a priority to dish network. They say they are the leader in HD..How false a statement.