VOOM Goes BOOM - update Dish Drops all 15 VOOM Channels

[Bradp56]

I just got a dish network advertisement in the mail, and it says leader in HD and has all the Voom channels listed, gotta love false advertisement.

[long_time_DNC]

Someone in marketing made a big "Oops"... Actually, they probably had those printed up about 2 months ago and didn't want to spend the money to recycle and reprint.

I wonder how many others have gotten that particular advertisement...?

[M Sparks]

Sam's Club had the Voom promos running yesterday on all their TVs.

[Bradp56]

The funny thing is for about 9 hours Dish was the leader in HD

[riffjim4069]

Geronimo, I have expressed my opinion about how I feel what the document is reporting. I have also said in another location that I would like to read E* response to these allegations as well. In the meantime, there is no response from E* and this is what we have until E* starts singing.

By the same token, there were some here in this forum that posted that it was V* who had said no to the 5 channels remaining. I accepted that as a fact because V* never responded to that but now that V* has stated, in the same document, that it was E* that did it without their consent, I can only go with the document provided by V*.

I still feel the same way because it was money that I paid out for service that I was not given and could have gotten it. Until E* comes out saying no to do this, I will believe this document.

What I find a little strange is the documents on file with the court (Complaint, Reply Counterclaim and Amended Complaint) are filings from VOOM. Where is EchoStar's Counterclaim and why isn't it filed with the court? Were there too many "trade secrets" or "company most private" information to release to the public. I found it difficult reading VOOM's [edited?] Reply Counterclaim without being able to read EchoStar CounterClaim.

Does anyone have a link to E*'s Counterclaim or can post it here?

Again, I don't see how two companies can see something so completely different without one of them knowingly stretching the truth.

THX...

[Geronimo]

What I find a little strange is the documents on file with the court (Complaint, Reply Counterclaim and Amended Complaint) are filings from VOOM. Where is EchoStar's Counterclaim and why isn't it filed with the court? Were there too many "trade secrets" or "company most private" information to release to the public. I found it difficult reading VOOM's [edited?] Reply Counterclaim without being able to read EchoStar CounterClaim.

Does anyone have a link to E*'s Counterclaim or can post it here?

Again, I don't see how two companies can see something so completely different without one of them knowingly stretching the truth.

THX...

People are posting the VOOM filings but if you check the original ruling you will seea synopsis of the Echostar filings as of that date what the judge thought and enogh info to search for wahtever else you want.

[psychicmind]

Voom was a Great Idea. Why can't we just all agree the repeats were excessive. You all can't believe Voom was great the way it was. I know in the back of "even the most Diehard Voom Fans"head that Voom could use some programming work. Thats all Voom had to do,add more programming.

Oh, I agree - they had some terrible repeat periods from time to time.

But we are all learning now that even the New HDs have a chronic repeat issue as well (plus many lack HD content).

Repeats were not unique to Voom.

[psychicmind]

Ever since we lost VOOM, I've been wondering just what it is I am going to do. I feel that TV in HD is becoming irrelevant. I mean really, satellite and cable providers are compressing the heck out of these channels, and now 15 of these HDlite things are gone. Am I to complain? Is the game really to get me to beg to have these HDlite channels back, thereby getting me to accept inferior picture quality? I do miss VOOM, but had these channels been delivered to me in superior HD quality, I would be screaming bloody murder right now!! As it is now, I am watching very little TV in "HD", and I look to my HD DVD and BluRay collection to deliver on the promise of what High Definition video and sound is supposed to be. HD TV is just not important to me anymore. Now that's what I call irrelevant.
Bubba04

I'm not a tech guy, but...

It seems compression is a problem for E* NOT D*

E* needs more birds in the air, otherwise they will continue compressing.

I believe D* compresses, but no where near as bad as E*

Whatever Cable does to HD is a sin and should never be spoken.

But I agree on the Blue-Ray for the true experience.

[psychicmind]

Does anyone have a link to E*'s Counterclaim or can post it here?

Again, I don't see how two companies can see something so completely different without one of them knowingly stretching the truth.

THX...

That's law for you.

Complaints from Voom are going to be written by their lawyers to benefit Voom.

Any response from E* will be written by E* lawyers to benefit E*

The two stories don't have to match at all.

It is then up to a judge, jury, and I to find the truth as best as one can.

Charlie has a long history of bullying. If Voom found a repeat-rerun loophole to try to back off E* while they were threatening to drop Voom from the agreed upon tier, I have no problem with that.

Who started bullying who first?

[jerryez]

Scott, you have D* and E*, which one compresses the signal more and which one has the better picture. Let's hear an opinion form the master.