VOOM Goes BOOM - update Dish Drops all 15 VOOM Channels

[psychicmind]

Scott, you have D* and E*, which one compresses the signal more and which one has the better picture. Let's hear an opinion form the master.

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[lern4483]

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Why is Scott so quiet on this???

Id love to hear Scotts an ''unbiased'' view on this.

Scott, who I have tremendous respect for should must be livid at what dish did to

voom!

[riffjim4069]

People are posting the VOOM filings but if you check the original ruling you will seea synopsis of the Echostar filings as of that date what the judge thought and enogh info to search for wahtever else you want.

The filings and the ruling on the temporary injunction are on file and publically available for downloading. However, there are no documents, specifially EchoStar's CounterClaim, from EchoStar that are publically available. Yes, one can gleen small nuggets from the judges ruling...however, his ruling was narrow in scope and, to be honest, it paints an incomplete pictures sine VOOM raised perhaps a hundred of more issue in their complain and only a small percentage of those were addressed by the judge.

A good example would be VOOM's assertion that EchoStar's cheif auditor (Ms Knight?) reported finding no problems with VOOM's books. Likewise, we also see where this woman was deposed in the complaint. However, I don't think the judge mentioned anything about her deposition or what, if any, weight it was given. Plus, what was Ms. Knight's testimony and what, if any, artifacts does VOOM have in support of their claim. Personally, I would like to read EchoStar's CounterClaim to VOOM...but it's not posted on the NY Courts website, 600292/2008.

[M Sparks]

Why is Scott so quiet on this???

Id love to hear Scotts an ''unbiased'' view on this.

Scott, who I have tremendous respect for should must be livid at what dish did to

voom!

The fact that he knows more than us and ISN'T livid tells me that there's a big piece of this puzzle missing.

I trust Scott, and that's why I'm no longer harping on the Voom removal.

The $5 or so I'm still paying for Voom though...that's another story.

[FitzAusTex]

The fact that he knows more than us and ISN'T livid tells me that there's a big piece of this puzzle missing.

I trust Scott, and that's why I'm no longer harping on the Voom removal.

The $5 or so I'm still paying for Voom though...that's another story.

Scott has called Voom demo/eye candy HD channels in the last 30 days, so while certainly not a Voom hater, he's not a fan. He has stated there are too many repeats for his liking.

We Voom lovers (whichever the 15 channels we happened to be most fond), obviously prefer to have the channels than not. It is a big undertaking to have non-stop new content. I was satisfied with the trickling in of brand new (2008) content that Voom added. Would I have liked even more new content, sure, but in the 18 months I had Voom, I came nowhere close to watching everything they had to offer. At the same time, I think I've seen every single show that Smithsonian has aired since we got it on 5/12. They do have one new show this Friday - "D Day: The True Story of Omaha" at 9pm EDT. They only have 100 total hours of shows that they are going to have to run again and again till they add more. The complaints about repeats on this channel are going to increase...and I'm sure they'll be a call to remove this worthless channel to add another...

[Sammy033]

The quantity of repeats is a debatable issue and everyone has a threshold for what is and is not acceptable. Do people expect more out of Voom or simply the same as every other channel?

[Bradp56]

A lot of channels have repeats thats just the way it is, you cant expect Voom to be much different, there were times where they had more repeats than it seemed they should but it was ok by me, I cant watch TV 24 hours a day.

[riffjim4069]

Scott has called Voom demo/eye candy HD channels in the last 30 days, so while certainly not a Voom hater, he's not a fan. He has stated there are too many repeats for his liking.

While VOOM used to be, at minimum, eye-candy at some distant time in the past on Dish Network, over the past 2 years it reminded me more of a fat kid who had eaten too much of Charlie's brand of DishHD-Lite eye-candy and spewed HD-Lite chunks all over my HDTV screen. What used to be a feast for the visual senses had, in fact, turned out to be an eye-gouging experience administered by the likes of EchoStar engineers Moe, Larry, and Curly.

The pain of watching VOOM while being poked in the eyeballs got to me after a couple years. Life is too short to suffer watching inferior quality HD-Lite.

I wonder if VOOM will amend their complaint to include Dish Network stealing roughly 33% of their HD picture and still calling it HD. Heck, I would find them guilty on that count alone...and sentence them to lifetime of DishHD-Lite. VOOM's infamous "fiber problem" my eye!!!

As far as all the repeats...I can't figure out whey E* would demand VOOM repeat more of their programming back in November 2007.

= VOOM HD the way it used to be
= VOOM after getting any eye poked out watching DishHD

[Scott Greczkowski]

I was away for my Birthday, got back last night.

Both Dish and DirecTV look about equal now. DirecTV looked MUCH better when DirecTV 10 first launched but now appears to have gotten softer.

Some things now look better on Dish however some things look better on DirecTV. I believe its just how they have the encoders setup and the programming airing, as Discovery HD on Dish sometimes looks better on Dish and then sometimes it looks better on DirecTV.

There is no winner as far as HD Quality goes in the Satellite world.

Yes FIOS look the best of them all, but again how many HD channels does FIOS have? (Just posting this because someone always pops in and raves about FIOS which is only available in a small portion of the country)

[Poke]

Yeah well the more FIOS adds that might all change again with them its how they have their network setup.. For most part all of their video is going across fiber to the home to where most other providers are not doing this yet..