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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezknight View Post
    The problem is that the general populace is not filled with the HD-geeks like you and me. In the end E* has to try and get subscribers and we are definitely living in an age where "brand recognition" rules. I really think the DirecTV ads about the "Channels you've never heard of" hurt E* more than we know. I blame this more on the "masses" and VOOM than anything else. Although, I blame E* for the poor way they handled the removal.
    I concur..but as I said before why did the "non-geek-masses" even bother with an HDTV? For maybe 10-15 HD channels? Maybe when "the masses" realize they're watching "glorified SD" (so it's in 5.1-whoop-di-do) they'll miss the "TRUE" HD content..Man, I'm a " " machine..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeygee0531 View Post
    I concur..but as I said before why did the "non-geek-masses" even bother with an HDTV? For maybe 10-15 HD channels? Maybe when "the masses" realize they're watching "glorified SD" (so it's in 5.1-whoop-di-do) they'll miss the "TRUE" HD content..Man, I'm a " " machine..
    Honestly the masses we're talking about bought those HDTV's for their network programming. All they really care about seeing in HD is Lost, CSI, E/R, etc. and their regional NFL games on Sunday.

    There are those who care about some of the pay channels in HD, but again it's strictly to watch the popular shows in HD. Branching out to find an eye-popping experience is not #1 on their agenda.

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    Expressvu still has the 3 voom channels

    TreasureHD
    EquatorHD
    RaveHD

    They also have a Canadian one:
    OasisHD

    Don't know how long they will be there though, if they lost Dish, and only send to Expressvu and Optimum, how long can they go on?

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    well- Ive now have been given a reason to vent instead of lurk.
    Dish Network has been the biggest piece of crap outfit Ive ever had to deal with, the only reason I kept a subsciption and dealt with thier
    craptastic way they do buisness- is that they did offer something I really did enjoy- monstershd, ..now that they dont offer, at least for the moment..
    Ive had it with Dish..and will move back to cable-who I thought at the time
    was awful..boy, did I get a wake-up call with these clowns..
    By the way- this board is awesome- very insightful for info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezknight View Post
    Honestly the masses we're talking about bought those HDTV's for their network programming. All they really care about seeing in HD is Lost, CSI, E/R, etc. and their regional NFL games on Sunday.

    There are those who care about some of the pay channels in HD, but again it's strictly to watch the popular shows in HD. Branching out to find an eye-popping experience is not #1 on their agenda.
    The number 1 reason among people I know for buying an HDTV is to get sports in HD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weezknight View Post
    Honestly the masses we're talking about bought those HDTV's for their network programming. All they really care about seeing in HD is Lost, CSI, E/R, etc. and their regional NFL games on Sunday.

    There are those who care about some of the pay channels in HD, but again it's strictly to watch the popular shows in HD. Branching out to find an eye-popping experience is not #1 on their agenda.
    Man, spending a couple grand to watch 3 or 4 shows in HD..I'm in the wrong profession..I wish they'd buy me a Rolls-Royce to just drive around on Sunday...

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    Is it possible that this is a negotiation ploy by Dish to force Voom to either

    A: Spend more on programming content

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    B: Lower the prices per subscriber

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    Quote Originally Posted by billymac View Post
    The number 1 reason among people I know for buying an HDTV is to get sports in HD.
    The #1 reason I thought anybody bought an HDTV was to watch HDTV...NOT SD!!!!!!!!!! I don't know anyone who bought an HDTV just for sports. This still doesn't explain the desire for people to demand these Nat'l channels in SD over any other channels in HD..We (masses) already had ABC Family, Disney, etc. So what, now it's in 5.1...........IT'S STILL SD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't that the ultimate debate here? Losing HD for SD??? (and the way it was handled, I guess)
    eurekaeurekaeureka Hey, I LOVE NCAA basketball and NASCAR in HD but what happens when the seasons end or between games, move my big-screen out of the living room and put my 32" in it's place to watch standard programming??
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    I just got off the phone with an account specialist? and the lady told me that Dish got rid of the Voom channels, not because of the lawsuit going on right now (I doubt that very much), but because of the new HD channels that were launched. She said Dish wants to bring the Voom channels back but she didn't know when they would be back. It sounds like a PR statement but I dunno if it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philhu View Post
    Don't know how long they will be there though, if they lost Dish, and only send to Expressvu and Optimum, how long can they go on?

    Probably for a long time since they don't have any new content budget setup..
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