VOOM Goes BOOM - update Dish Drops all 15 VOOM Channels

**technoguy** · 05-14-2008 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by riffjim4069

Refresh your browser and you'll see that it is gone.

Yep...Did that...Is gone,So we can assume this is the real thing,Bye bye Voom

**rad** · 05-14-2008 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by airphotos

Let's all pray for a D* logo on their page in the near future.

D*'s said in the past they're not interested in the Voom channels (the channels that nobody's heard of is what they called them IIRC). If I had to guess V* will probably be no more shortly, sounds like they weren't making much, if any, money and now they've lost their biggest customer.

**airphotos** · 05-14-2008 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by rad

D*'s said in the past they're not interested in the Voom channels (the channels that nobody's heard of is what they called them IIRC). If I had to guess V* will probably be no more shortly, sounds like they weren't making much, if any, money and now they've lost their biggest customer.

Yes, but this could be a home run in terms of sticking another stake into Dish's heart. D* would be foolish not to consider it, especially if Voom is willing to listen about content modification.

**rad** · 05-14-2008 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by airphotos

Yes, but this could be a home run in terms of sticking another stake into Dish's heart. D* would be foolish not to consider it, especially if Voom is willing to listen about content modification.

There was a poll here and IIRC it was like less then 20% of folks said they would switch to D* if they picked up V* channels. And Claude G has said that most of the new customers that he signs up don't take the V* channels so it looks like it's a very small number of potential customers for a niche service that would take up transponders that D* might feel will be useful carrying other channels to help their bottom line.

**riffjim4069** · 05-14-2008 05:26 PM

I said it long ago...Rainbow Media should have marketed the entire 15 channels lineup for $1.50 per subscriber (long-term contracts) and let the provider determine what channels they offered as capacity became available. I even mentioned they should sell airtime on channels like HDNews and perhaps inject a commercial or two between movies. Although I think Dish Network is going to pay to settle this lawsuite, there is no doubt the folks at VOOM Networks have been asleep at the wheel. To be honest, I always wondered by VOOM didn't schlock their wares more aggressively to cable/satellite...until I saw what a sweet deal they had with EchoStar.

Source

An EchoStar affiliate, EchoStar Media Holdings, got a 20% stake in Voom HD as part of that sale. And the Voom-EchoStar affiliation agreement also flowed out of that transaction.

The Voom-EchoStar 2005 carriage deal, which Voom described as a “multi-billion dollar, 15-year contract,” called for EchoStar to pay a subscriber fee of $3.25 a month per HD customer in the first year of deal, with annual increases until it reached $6.43 a month in the pact’s final year.

EchoStar charged that Voom has violated a provision of their carriage deal where Voom agreed to spend $100 million a year on a 21-channel version of Voom, up to an aggregate of $500 million. But Voom reduced its number of services to only 15, so it argues that its annual required spending “is currently no more than $82 million.”

**bkushner** · 05-14-2008 05:42 PM

Dish logo now off the VOOM site!

**tomcrown1** · 05-14-2008 05:52 PM

Well I think Voom if over and in two months the voom site will be down. Without Dish how will Voom get any income???

**jaysapathy** · 05-14-2008 06:03 PM

That's what worries me. I can still see the Cablevision provider generating at least SOMETHING, but Dish was their biggest client, and Charlie knows it. Maybe the other poster is right, and this is just "Charlie being Charlie," and throwing a tantrum to get his way..

Yeah, and maybe tomorrow we'll all wake up and this won't have happened.

F'ing Charlie.

Jay

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**nsps** · 05-14-2008 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by 8bitbytes

I'm still trying to get better info on The Shield and Rescue Me since they do have BD releases BUT there have been other shows that were shown in SD that have been released on BD in 4:3 format too.

It's quite possible to create 4:3 HD. Of course, most TV shows in HD shoot with both 16:9 and 4:3 in mind, as people don't think it's HD if it's in 4:3. 4:3 HD is mostly for content originally made in that aspect ratio (older movies, etc.). I have no idea re the shows in question.

**DaveA** · 05-14-2008 06:21 PM

Man, this is a completely and utter shock to me. I wanted Dish for years strictly for MonstersHD. I finally got Dish about 1.5 years ago and have been enjoying Monsters HD since. With Voom gone, I'm pretty much gone from Dish. I'll wait it out to see where Voom ends up (hopefully somewhere) and that is where I'll be going. My only loyalty is to that channel. I absolutely getting to see all the high def horror.