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    slicked25 is offline SatelliteGuys Regular
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    NOW that we're all Voomless, HD is so overrated now that it's not even funny. I've got around 30 HD channels now give or take but for the life of me I CAN'T EVER FIND ANYTHING WORTH WATCHING IN HD perod. I'm constantly flipping the remote and like most of you have said above half the freaking programming's not in HD so the crazy thing is why keep paying for something that at the end of the day you're still not happy? I guess since I'm paid up this month I'll stick around to see what gives before making a move.

    If two nights ago when everything was great with the new addition of more HD channels I was at a 10 but now it's more like a 2.5 with Dishnetwork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yaesumofo View Post
    There is no doubt that Voom gave dish an edge. Yaesumofo
    If Voom gave E* an edge it would still be on E*. Fact is Voom did not give E* an edge... in fact it did the exact opposite. Ask the retailers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboeau View Post
    If Voom gave E* an edge it would still be on E*. Fact is Voom did not give E* an edge... in fact it did the exact opposite. Ask the retailers.
    I agree it didnt give them an edge a few months ago, because E* didnt have the more mainstream channels also. They had to market Voom as a big part of their HD package, versus how D* did with channels that people were familiar with. Now however, the national playing field is pretty even and, , Voom might be a nice addition for one of the companies to have.
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    One thing I have learned over the years with Dish is that you can't complain about anything. The moment you do it, they will hit you in the face and cut the service.

    We used to have Voom HD here in Puerto Rico but some local folks started calling Dish with complaints about the weak signal from 61.5 satellite a couple years ago. What do you think Dish do to correct the problem? BANNED ALL VOOM CHANNELS for Puerto Rico subscribers and "PROBLEM SOLVED"!!!

    They leave us with 5 HD channels for $10.

    Now they use the same correcting principle for you guys in the cont. US. You complaint about Voom reruns, repeats, lack of new programming?

    NO PROBLEM!!!

    Now you have 22 "new" "HD" channels with the same SD programming as their basic counterparts. The only thing you'll see in HD is the channel logo!

    Not to mention TONS of commercials and adds.

    In my humble opinion, we ended with less viewing options, so at the end we are the one who lose.

    And remember don't complain with Dish unless you want your service CUT from it roots.

    DishBoy_PR.

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    That sounds tragically familiar. I think I remember reading something in the forums about the "Puerto Rico Blackout" a while back. Ultimately, though, speaking from my point of view (and probably the points of a lot of others), without the VOOM channels, there's no difference between D* and E*. Thusly, if E* wants to shut off my service, more power to them. I sell the hardware on Craigslist, and use it to buy better D* hardware. No company would be stupid enough to cut service to paying users, unless they're abusive.. Would they? Is Cowboy Charlie's ego really that out of control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mntwister View Post
    Then he went on to tell me that they were never true HD channels, they were mpeg-2 and took too much bandwidth (if they weren't hd how could they take so much bandwidth)
    I guess he never had to deal with the whole 942 -> 622 upgrade mess due to VOOM going MPEG-4

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboeau View Post
    If Voom gave E* an edge it would still be on E*. Fact is Voom did not give E* an edge... in fact it did the exact opposite. Ask the retailers.
    This is not black and white. I believe it did give them an edge but their contract with Voom worked against them by requiring that Voom be included in the basic HD package. That is what worked against them because a lot of new customers didn't want to pay for a $20.00 HD package and therefore chose D*.

    Thus Dish looked for an excuse to break the contract. If Voom would not have sued and would have accepted being in the optional package, I bet Dish wouldn't have dropped them.

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    Brown Shoes

    I must admit I feel like a pair of brown shoes at a formal wedding! The shows and channels I love the most inevitably are the ones that the majority seemingly can do without.
    I am truly angry at losing channels like Gallery and Voom News, Rush and World Cinema.
    Why is it that anything with a cultural interest or a unique perspective is dismissed by Dish--often in deference to adding yet another sports channel? How did Charlie become the de facto grantor of public opinion? Couldn’t Dish open its coffers and support some cultural or unique programming--even if it's not really profitable? Is money the only controlling factor at Echo Star? How about a change of attitude that takes into account viewers who might enjoy a different perspective?
    I suppose that I should be grateful for the addition of so many new channels. I’ll try to control my enthusiasm over being able to watch a 24 hour fishing channel. Ah, yes, all fins…all the time! How about the west coast feed of a movie channel? Oh, that’s right I have a PVR that Dish has pushed for years. How about the SciFi Channel that is managing to show programs like Jake 2.0 in SD when Mark Cuban’s channel was airing it in full 1080i over a year ago?
    I don’t pretend to understand the business intricacies of these decisions even though I’ve read the court decision against Voom. But, just once, just once mind you, I’d like to see us poor bastards in brown shoes win one!

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    I jumped to dish when voom came aboard. Dish will be going dark this week in my home.

    Direc is comming back.

    Voom was unique and set dish apart from everyone else- F*** THEM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lern4483 View Post
    I jumped to dish when voom came aboard. Dish will be going dark this week in my home.

    Direc is comming back.

    Voom was unique and set dish apart from everyone else- F***THEM!
    Very mature.
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