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    Quote Originally Posted by davelip75 View Post
    People keep saying I only signed a 2 year contract for a special deal. There was no special deal. Having to pay $150 to upgrade my service and get an HDDVR is a special deal/discount? Do you guys work for Dish Network or something?



    I have a legitimate argument/concern. If you are a Dish Network customer, how can you not have some anger/resentment towards the company if they switch their HD programming with NON HD, upconverted, stretched, commerical ridden content.

    Either I'm insane or people would prefer to watch a movie like Casino on Bravo for 4 hours with 1 1/2 hours of commercials, vs. commercial free 720p/1080i HD films on Monsters HD/Rave/Kung Fu/Gallery.

    My other argument is this: If you live in an apartment, and the landlord has a dispute with the water company and doesn't pay the bill, the tenant is left to suffer when the water gets turned off.

    Dish network has a dispute with Voom, so they decide to terminate their contract. In the apartment situation, a tenant has the legal right to sue the landlord for loss of services. Why shouldn't that apply in this situation?
    Granted im biased but thats a good argument!

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    Everyone apparently keeps ignoring the fact that Charlie owns 20% of VOOM. Is Charlie prepared to forfeit his investment by allowing VOOM to disappear or does Charlie have other plans?

    BTW. The primary effect of a class action lawsuit (if it were possible) would be some unfavorable publicity which does produce results at times.
    I would watch paint drying if it were in HD, and I had several beers.

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    Unfortunately youa re never requied to sign up with any TV provider. That is a choice you made. you now regret rhe choice which is understandable under the circumstances. But the agreement we all accepted allows DISH to make changes to the programming. That is what makes this different from the tenant landlord situation.

    Having said all that if you want to participate ina class action suit go for it. But people have already told you why they think it won't succeed. the one thing that I will grant you all is that DISH does not seem to have provided notice and contrary to an earlier post the residential agreement does discuss notice.

    I am sorry but some of you seem to see this as "I am angry so i am going to go to court". Others are simply advising you that they don't think that the court will find in your favor.
    And DISH owning 20% of VOOM HAS Been discussed before---several times. As for the publicity OK go for it and see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcrown1 View Post
    This is silly because VOOM will not be around by years end if Voom can not wrok out a new contract with DISH. Only one cable system has VOOM and they may drop Voom in the near future. Voom needs Dish. My guess is that in one month Voom will be back on Dish with a different lineup.

    I like this statement, hopefully that will come true.

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    Both Voom and Dish remain in active litigation on these matters. I don't believe a 'gag order' has been issued by the judge, but it's always unwise to comment while trials and/or appellate processes are active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1 View Post
    Who cares? Voom is dead! Its over. If you want to make another lawyer rich as hell ,Go right ahead. Enough with the Voom crap already. Its freaken TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCom911 View Post
    Both Voom and Dish remain in active litigation on these matters. I don't believe a 'gag order' has been issued by the judge, but it's always unwise to comment while trials and/or appellate processes are active.

    Very true you will notice both sides are currently very quiet on the subject which I am hoping is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davelip75 View Post
    I have a legitimate argument/concern.
    Yes you do. And you can join the ranks of the four or five remaining Baby Voomers. But you DON'T have grounds for a suit. Don't be a Drama Queen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davelip75 View Post
    People keep saying I only signed a 2 year contract for a special deal. There was no special deal. Having to pay $150 to upgrade my service and get an HDDVR is a special deal/discount? Do you guys work for Dish Network or something?

    I have a legitimate argument/concern. If you are a Dish Network customer, how can you not have some anger/resentment towards the company if they switch their HD programming with NON HD, upconverted, stretched, commerical ridden content.

    Either I'm insane or people would prefer to watch a movie like Casino on Bravo for 4 hours with 1 1/2 hours of commercials, vs. commercial free 720p/1080i HD films on Monsters HD/Rave/Kung Fu/Gallery.

    My other argument is this: If you live in an apartment, and the landlord has a dispute with the water company and doesn't pay the bill, the tenant is left to suffer when the water gets turned off.

    Dish network has a dispute with Voom, so they decide to terminate their contract. In the apartment situation, a tenant has the legal right to sue the landlord for loss of services. Why shouldn't that apply in this situation?
    Assuming you got a 722, you could have payed $500 for a 722, and what, about $100 for a 1000.2 dish with lnbs, but you didnt, you signed a 2 year contract and only payed $150 for it, there for you chose to sign a contract for a better price...

    I am very happy with dish's current HD line up, and YES i would prefer to watch something that I am interested in in SD on bravo than watch anything on Voom. I can count the number of times i tuned into a Voom channel on 1 hand, and after those few times, I saw all of the interesting content that they had. I say good riddance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davelip75 View Post
    My other argument is this: If you live in an apartment, and the landlord has a dispute with the water company and doesn't pay the bill, the tenant is left to suffer when the water gets turned off.

    Dish network has a dispute with Voom, so they decide to terminate their contract. In the apartment situation, a tenant has the legal right to sue the landlord for loss of services. Why shouldn't that apply in this situation?
    Speaking in those terms, overall your water wasn't shut off, your water pressure was reduced from what it used to be. Would it be worth it to sue because of slightly lower water pressure?

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