Court Order issued in TiVo vs. Echostar scheduling contempt hearing

**TNGTony** · 06-06-2008 09:36 AM

This judge must watch TV on his Dumont and listen to his records on the built-in victrola!

**BobMurdoch** · 06-06-2008 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by pabeader

come on charlie, just buy the jerks and move on

If it weren't for these patents Tivo would have been dead already..... Buy them out and end the threat of that Sword of Damocles hanging over E*'s head.

Not to mention that an E* box with Tivo AND Slingbox features would be a world beater. D* still has sports, but E* can reposition themselves as the enthusiast's service (assuming that brand of enthusiast could care less about out of market sports)

**philhu** · 06-06-2008 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by HalfFull

How about this....Charlie buys Tivo, throws the existing case so EchoTivoStar wins, and then goes after Motorola, Direct, etc and makes another Billion!

Nope, DirecTV bought a license when this all started. They are clear. And Motorola had Tivo write the CableBox Tivo firmware, so I think they are ok also since Tivo would not sue someone they are working with to modify their boxes to be tivos.

**Curtis0620** · 06-06-2008 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by BobMurdoch

If it weren't for these patents Tivo would have been dead already..... Buy them out and end the threat of that Sword of Damocles hanging over E*'s head.

Not to mention that an E* box with Tivo AND Slingbox features would be a world beater. D* still has sports, but E* can reposition themselves as the enthusiast's service (assuming that brand of enthusiast could care less about out of market sports)

License the technology and this all goes away. Why is Charlie so stuborn? He is already overcharging his customers for DVR service.

**Thomas22** · 06-06-2008 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by philhu

Motorola had Tivo write the CableBox Tivo firmware, so I think they are ok also since Tivo would not sue someone they are working with to modify their boxes to be tivos.

TiVo has not made any deals with Motorola. TiVo wrote the software for the Motorola boxes on their own.

**RandallA** · 06-06-2008 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Curtis0620

License the technology and this all goes away. Why is Charlie so stuborn? He is already overcharging his customers for DVR service.

I completely agree with you on this one.

**RVD420** · 06-06-2008 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by philhu

Nope, DirecTV bought a license when this all started. They are clear. And Motorola had Tivo write the CableBox Tivo firmware, so I think they are ok also since Tivo would not sue someone they are working with to modify their boxes to be tivos.

WRONG!!!!

DirecTV didn't buy a license.

They are clear because the bought ReplayTV.

ReplayTV and Tivo have patent cross licensing agreements.

**jrp** · 06-06-2008 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Curtis0620

How about this:

DISH turn off all your DVR's. TiVo says no to any licensing agreement since DISH has been a total a$$ about this.

A corporation turn down money, possibly a very large sum of money, because it violates their principles? Not likely.

**Geronimo** · 06-06-2008 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by Sean Mota

Whomever wrote the above is not in touch with reality!

In fairness it is the defendant's responsibility to explain what the realities are. If they fail to do so well it is hardly the fault of the judge.

**Thomas22** · 06-06-2008 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by RVD420

ReplayTV and Tivo have patent cross licensing agreements.

No. ReplayTV and TiVo never had a cross licensing agreement. The suits were dismissed without prejudice meaning they were free to sue again. Neither company announced a cross licensing agreement.