First Look: Dish Network's DTVPal Digital Converter

[pabeader]

if you don't like the rules of the place where you are, you are always free to emigrate.

[A guy who read the manual]

Well, my DTVPal preorder has been cancelled. I'd very much like to link to the whole notice that was posted by the store, but any mention by name or links to stores that are not sponsors of this site are considered spam, so I'll give you short excerpts:

June 14, 2008

To Our Dear DTVPal Customers:
. . .
Up until Monday, June 9th, we had solid committments from Sling Media (a wholly owned subsidiary of Echostar) and our distributor that we would receive stock of the DTVPal during the week of June 16th. We worked extremely hard to establish this distribution channel for the DTVPal over the first 6 months of the year.
. . .
We understand that this change is leaving some customers with rapidly approaching coupon expiration dates in a bad situation. For those of you that pre-ordered that DTVPal, we apologize, but have no choice but to cancel your order with us. You are free to use your coupons at any NTIA approved retailer. This cancellation process may take a few days to complete, but you can use your coupons immediately.

We do not have any further information about the availability of the DTVPal
. . .
We will continue to offer the widest selection of coupon eligible converters on the market today, and our selection will continue to increase over the coming weeks and months.

I apologize to all of our customers for this change, but again, it is a decision that is out of our control.
. . .
Sincerely,
John Buchmann, Owner

[rickc]

Oh, Miguel, you just don't get how things work here. Maybe if we lived in some godforsaken communist country people could just post store names willy nilly to an internet forum in some misguided concept of free and open communication. But we live in the good old US of A where capitalism rules and fascist site administrators censor posts that mention companies that aren't sponsoring their site.

How ever will PR become a state if you people are still holding on to quaint concepts like freedom of speech?

Rperlberg, who pee'd in your cornflakes this morning?

This is Scott's site, and as the owner he can make whatever rules he pleases with it. As a user, your options are to live with his rules...or find another site which closer matches your philosophy.

[Scott Greczkowski]

The entire thing comes down to the other DTVPal thread (not this one) where a number of folks were talking about and advertising the DTVPal (somefolks even had an ad in their signature)

Thats when it became spam.

We had to edit a number of peoples signatures to remove the ad.

As far mentioning other sites its fine as long as it does not turn into advertising like it did in the other thread. To say I got a whatever from wahtever.com and I was happy with their service is ok.

To say "buy your whatever from whatever.com" then thats an ad.

The only reason why I mentioned it here in this thread is because I could see the innocent mentions start turning into ads.

As always we need to protect the interests of our sponsors as without them we would not be here. Thanks for your understanding.

[A guy who read the manual]

I understand what you're saying, Scott.

Incidentally, though, I would advise against buying anything from
whatever.com

!

[rperlberg]

As far mentioning other sites its fine as long as it does not turn into advertising like it did in the other thread. To say I got a whatever from wahtever.com and I was happy with their service is ok.

Thank you for the clarification. A lot of the people posting here have been censoring themselves unnecessarily. Let's hope this puts an end to the "chilling effect".

[stone phillips420]

ugh, preorders cancelled via freedtvshopdotcom, it nots his fault
Charlie F you and your price increase just to fatten your pockets.
clearly this is a case of *ISH Marketing at it best!
so ive placed my orders elsewhere now, i wonder if they take my coupons, since they were already used on my preorder which has now been cancelleed

[mosquito]

Scott & all --

Just to be clear, as owner of the infamous "whatever.com," I never personally posted any advertisements of my site here and have no affiliation with anyone that may have.

And yes, your coupons will be good anywhere you take them. We haven't redeemed a single one, which is the right way to do pre-orders with this program.

John

[stone phillips420]

And yes, your coupons will be good anywhere you take them. We haven't redeemed a single one, which is the right way to do pre-orders with this program.

John

thats great news, thanks John

[mosquito]

By the way, the postings from PR have to be bogus because the DTVPal is still on the unavailable list. That list does restrict coupon redemption. The only way they would be able to sell is if it was without coupons, which would bring the "consumer protection" question into the mix.