Retailer Chat Recap - July 10, 2008

**dmendenjr** · 07-10-2008 06:09 PM

I REALLY hate it when I am assuming correctly. So on the upside we get RSN's if we keep our current level of service (which are mostly part-time channels) and 4 new nationals... the downside, the bill just went up about 20 a month. ((Will be fun explaining this one to my wife, after signing up for the service 3 weeks ago - BANG a price increase - something we would have expected from CoNcast... sigh....)

However... that will make the quantities of HD channels in each package come up short. They are missing one channel in the Bronze and two in the Silver and Gold. As far as the one missing from Silver and Gold, it could be anything in the AT200 package not already in HD (ie MSNBC, Speed...). As for the Bronze, the only channels that aren't already covered would not make sense to add by themselves (the mtv/vh1/cmt/nick will most likely hit at the same time) very curious....

**BobMurdoch** · 07-10-2008 06:12 PM

Could care less about NBA or NHL if they went away. Lifetime either (nor does the Mrs. watch them thank God)....

I'm still trying to figure out if AEP + HD Ultimate customers are getting a price increase and/or the new channels, or do we have to move up another HD tier....

**dmendenjr** · 07-10-2008 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by BobMurdoch

Could care less about NBA or NHL if they went away. Lifetime either (nor does the Mrs. watch them thank God)....

I'm still trying to figure out if AEP + HD Ultimate customers are getting a price increase and/or the new channels, or do we have to move up another HD tier....

Far as I can tell, the only people that are definitely getting the price increase are the new HD only subs...

other than that, is is also possible the current HD Only subs could feel the pinch too. Many have said that won't be the case; but still no confirmation from e* that current HD Abs subs will be grandfathered. Even if we are grandfathered it is unknown whether they will get the new nationals (most likely NOT the RSNs) and for how long the grandfathered rate would apply...

**tomcrown1** · 07-10-2008 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by dmendenjr

Far as I can tell, the only people that are definitely getting the price increase are the new HD only subs...

other than that, is is also possible the current HD Only subs could feel the pinch too. Many have said that won't be the case; but still no confirmation from e* that current HD Abs subs will be grandfathered. Even if we are grandfathered it is unknown whether they will get the new nationals (most likely NOT the RSNs) and for how long the grandfathered rate would apply...

Bingo the current customers will not see a rate increase untill next year and then yes the rates will go up.

**dmendenjr** · 07-10-2008 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by tomcrown1

Bingo the current customers will not see a rate increase untill next year and then yes the rates will go up.

The question of the hour though, will they keep their word and continue to add channels to the legacy HD Abs. pack, or will we not see anything else added

(mind you - I can very easily live without Plant Green, Lifetimes and CBS College Sports, but if anything more interesting gets added and it gets skipped from HD Abs, I'll be a little miffed)

**tomcrown1** · 07-10-2008 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by dmendenjr

The question of the hour though, will they keep their word and continue to add channels to the legacy HD Abs. pack, or will we not see anything else added

(mind you - I can very easily live without Plant Green, Lifetimes and CBS College Sports, but if anything more interesting gets added and it gets skipped from HD Abs, I'll be a little miffed)

Yes if you have the right package you should see the new channels, if not then I think Dish Network can be sued. Also it would be bad business for Charlie to try and change the rules for the current HD subscriber in Mid-Year. At the end of year yes he can raise the rate that is the busniess model Charlie had set up for Dish and that is the big reason Charlie gives for staying with Dish.

In other words your rate will not go up for one year after the year yes your rate can increase.

**GameOn** · 07-10-2008 06:56 PM

Guess? There are 41 HD channels identified. Add the 5 pay-per-view amd the 4 new HD channels, that gives you 50. There are 10 hd with no SD channels (the new HDTurbo PLatinum) - below. Subtracting those, that gives you 40 - HDTurbo Gold. For the 33, there are 7 channels in in Ulitimate that are not in the Essentials; granted all 7 are part of the non-SD 10 so what are the 7 silver to gold channels, who knows.

HD Theater
HDNet
HDNet Movies
MGM
MHD
NBA
NHL
Smithsonian
Universal
WFN

Looks like at some point, $20more/month. Then again, maybe we should wait to see wait Dish says...

I thought I remembered somewhere in this thread it was mentioned that Disk mentioned pricing woud not change for current members. But I bet if you change your package, you get the new pricing.

**dmendenjr** · 07-10-2008 07:28 PM

scott posted these screen caps earlier.... (never posted picts in a post before so don't know how well this will work...)

(first image from this post. second from this post.)

I would be willing to put money on this:
channels in AT100 = channels in Turbo Bronze (+MHD, HD Net, HD Theater)
channels in AT200 = channels in Turbo Silver (+MHD, HD Net, HD Theater)
channels in AT250 = channels in Turbo Gold (+MHD, HD Net, HD Theater)

This would mean they would still have to add one more channel to the Bronze and two to the Silver and Gold.

Not completely outside the realm of possibility...