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    Quote Originally Posted by dlsnyder View Post
    If only they could do that with the Wii.
    thats what i was thinking. lol


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    Short term this 1080P announcement will not mean much for the regular cable channels right? As far as I know none of them are pushing 1080P signals.

    The PPV movies are a diffrent story, not that it matters for me I've bought 2 PPV in 6 years w/ DiSH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMurdoch View Post
    It does give a way to get a marketing bragging point vs. D*, but it will be confusing to new customers who think they are getting 1080p on ALL channels, not just the PPV ones....
    Seems as though the marketing point will be short lived, if there really is much of one to begin with. D* announced earlier this week that it was going to be doing the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobMurdoch View Post
    It does give a way to get a marketing bragging point vs. D*
    Who already announced the same thing a few days ago. It makes sense for (both of) them to do it with PPV titles, because it saves bandwidth, removes any concerns of incorrect reverse telecine results, and gives them a nice buzzword that people will equate to a higher end product. But you can't really expect them to provide it on other content that isn't fed to them in 1080p. Besides, IF all the hardware does it's job correctly, the customer doesn't benefit from 1080p anyway as long as the hardware is capable of providing a correct 24p output via reverse telecine.

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    What I see happening is another option for display output. Currently we have what ... 480i, 720P, 1080i? (Is there a 480P option? - can't remember).

    Basically then I just envision another option added to that - 1080P. There, when you setup your TV you would see:

    1080P
    1080i
    720P
    480i

    Therefore, the satellite receiver, if set to 1080P, will always output 1080P. If a channel is only sending 480i, for example, the receiver will just upconvert to 1080P.

    Just like what those "upconverting" DVD players do now.

    Obviously for native 1080P programming, no upconverting would be done.

    At least this is my hope.

    It would be a bummer if you only got the 1080P option for PPV only. I much prefer "P" content over "i".

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    This 1080p stuff is really great, and hats off to Dish for getting it out first, but with that said, where in the **** is FX and SPEEDHD, GreenHD you've got to be kidding! I'm starting to pull my damn hair out, son of a *****! What the ****. Ah ok, feel better! No one has mention the VIP612 it's a dvr and mpeg4, hello! I'm sure it's included in this turbo charging!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drone35 View Post
    ... No one has mention the VIP612 it's a dvr and mpeg4, hello! I'm sure it's included in this turbo charging!
    Now you have mentioned it, they shall be I don't see why not.

    The point about the 1080p PPVs not useful for those already have bluray collection and equipment, of course this news release is not for you guys, but for PPV subs.

    If the 1080p HDPPV goes well, it will have a major impact on the bluray market. I am hoping Scott can give us some feedback on the 24-hr limitation thing, will the 1080p movies be able to be off loaded to the EHD and played back later even with a fee? This is the only way to compete with bluray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bitbytes View Post
    Even on a 720p display, 1080p will look better because more actual pixel data is available to scale with and no de-interlacing is being done. Fear not 720p owners, you will see an improvement!
    This is definitely NOT a given. There is more to a good picture than higher resolution...

    Given the same bandwidth, most people will notice no difference and some may actually see a picture that is worse (due to scaling issues).

    Most 'experts' argue that we don't NEED 1080p (or 1080i) because most of us sit far enough back from our tv's that we are not going to notice the difference. Obviously there are situations in which this is not true but for most people it probably is true.
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    From what I'm reading, the BCM7412 chipset in the 722 doesn't support 1080p.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski View Post
    At the SatelliteGuys meeting with Charlie in May, Charlie explained how they were going to do this...

    Channels 501 - 510 will have movies listed with no start times. Clicking on them you will be able to order them and then they will start playing immediately as they are stored on your hard drive. This will give you VOD on all the hit PPV movies. The neat part is in the guide they will look like PPV channels.
    Since you accept this method of counting channels, how many does DirecTV have when you include their version of this (HD Movies Now) which has been available for months?

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