How Dish's 1080p is going to work...

**Hall** · 08-01-2008 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

I am hearing that receviers chipsets have a hard time upconverting to 1080p which is why its not an option at this time.

I think that means "pass-through" then, eh ?

**EmpireState** · 08-01-2008 09:25 AM

Questions:

1. What happens if I’m connected with component cables? It won’t be able to detect the resolution of my Television. Do I get to choose which resolution I want?

2. Let’s say I have an HDMI cable, and the DVR detects that I have a 1080i (not 1080p) television and I rent the movie. What happens if I switch over to the component cables to watch it. Does the DVR output the movie at the detected resolution, or the resolution I have selected in my HD setup? Or does it not play it at all?

**Dugout Doug** · 08-01-2008 09:28 AM

component can not produce 1080p.

**Hall** · 08-01-2008 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Dugout Doug

component can not produce 1080p.

wikipedia says it's capable of it. You don't see it implemented often because the movie studios require a "secure" or digital connection to prevent copying.

**Jason Whiddon** · 08-01-2008 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by Poke

Yeah I think this is good that their doing this but I will stick with my BlockBuster Online..

+1

**jacmyoung** · 08-01-2008 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by smackman1

To the Average consumer, The difference is minimal at best.
The bigger the Screen(depending also how far you sit from the screen also) the more a videophile might notice.
I do not understand why everyone is so "excited" about 1080p VOD especially when most television(all fixed pixels that are 1080p) have a chipset that already upconverts to 1080p.
Its like selling a 1080p Television to a consumer who has strictly want HD from OTA channels.
To the consumer it is a "WOW" factor. Im reality, they will receive a 720p or 1080i input and there Television upconverts to 1080p.

First off most if not all LCD and plasma panels are progressive panels, either 1080p or 720p, so there is no reason to grip about 1080i vs. 1080p anymore.

Secondly, a good 1080i broadcast with sufficient bandwith given will look much more detailed and 3D on a large 1080p panel than on a 720p panel simply due to much higher resolution.

On the other hand, a good 1080i source upscaled by the panel internally to 1080p should look just as good as a good 1080p native source like this 1080p VOD scheme. So yes I don't see a major attraction other than a bragging right.

That is especially true if the viewing time is limited to only 4 hours. The studios obviously do not want this 1080p VOD thing to cut into their Bluray DVD sales. I don't see this thing fly with the regular $6.99 rental for only 4 hours.

It just doesn't make any sense. I will order this one because it is only $2.99, and only to have the bragging right myself

but that is about it.

**bjdraw** · 08-01-2008 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by broadcasttheworld

Yes 1080i native runs at 1.485Gbps 1080P native runs at 3.0Gbps.

knowing that tons of compression is needed for both. However this Legend event will be downloaded onto your VIP Not a live stream so it will be BluRay quality.

These quotes mean nothing without the frame rate. I assume you mean 1080i60 and 1080p60. If so, I agree. But if you mean 1080i60 vs 1080p30, then I don't.

As for 1080p60, show me any examples available to consumers. There aren't even any Blu-ray titles that offer 1080p60 as most are 1080p24 and a few (like Planet Earth) are 1080p30.

**Primus** · 08-01-2008 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by abricko

I wish you could "set" the output to 1080p so all content could be upconverted / delivered to my TV in it's native format.

99% of 1080p capable TVs will upconvert 1080i to 1080p. So it shouldn't make a difference if your TV upconverts or your receiver upconverts. And for the record, upconverting 1080i to 1080p is not the same as displaying native 1080p media.

**waltinvt** · 08-01-2008 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by elwaylite

This goes for Dish and D*:

Why in the world would you want to pay all that dough for a movie that doesnt even have HD audio, when Netflix and a BR player would set you right?

I just really dont see the point to HD VOD, but to each their own. Im thinking this just gives the Sat companies a PR gimmick(kinda like the HD totals counting)

You're exactly right but it may take some of the Dish lemmings a while to catch on.

**waltinvt** · 08-01-2008 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by hall

wikipedia says it's capable of it. You don't see it implemented often because the movie studios require a "secure" or digital connection to prevent copying.

and that's what this is really all about. They're dangling the 1080 24p carrot in exchange for "bye bye HDD archiving" and eventually the end of your HD-DVR as we've come to know it.