How Dish's 1080p is going to work...

[Hall]

I am hearing that receviers chipsets have a hard time upconverting to 1080p which is why its not an option at this time.

I mentioned this in another thread, but unless Broadcom has updated their BCM7411 and 7412 chipsets, they do not support 1080p. Now, I do recall reading about a BR or HD-DVD player that uses that same chipset but originally only supported 1080i, then later could support 1080p with a firmware update. Maybe Broadcom's information online is out-of-date ?



Also, and I said this earlier...

I think that means "pass-through" then, eh ?

[cloudy]

I guess we could start a new thread debating the whole Component issue.
I think it would be a long thread. It's confusing to most people, and there are always conflicting reports between whether the tv itself has the limitations, or the actual Movie hard copy has the limitations.

[8bitbytes]

Here is some specific info concerning component video:

Video signals require bandwidth for transmission

1920x1080 requires at least 260mhz bandwidth

Component cables are available for purchase today that support up to 4.5ghz in bandwidth.

The component video limitation is your in equipment.

[Hall]

Video signals require bandwidth for transmission

1920x1080 requires at least 260mhz bandwidth

Component cables are available for purchase today that support up to 4.5ghz in bandwidth.

End of story

[rglore]

Looks to me like the receiver is checking that the TV is HDCP compliant and will accept 1080p. That limits it to HDMI as component inputs cannot do HDCP. Go to diagnostics menu and do an HDMI test and it will show if your TV is HDCP capable. Mine also shows it's not able to take 1080p but I know this is not true.

[Hall]

Yes, the receiver does do this. Remember when Dish put out a technical bulletin to installers telling them to always use HDMI/DVI when possible because someday component connections would be stripped down to 480p ? That was all HDCP-related.

As for your receiver saying your TV isn't capable, it's possible that your TV doesn't implement HDCP exactly the way your receiver expects to see it or it's possible that the receiver is in error. A firmware/software update on one or the other may be able to resolve it. Has your TV had any firmware updates ?

[dlsnyder]

My biggest question is whether 2.35:1 OAR movies will be shown on E*'s 1080p VOD system open matte or OAR??

If they go open matte I will be ordering exactly 0 of the 1080p movies.

+1

[tomcrown1]

First off must consumer cannot tell the difference between 1080I or 720P so this news will be a big yawn.

Second if Dish charges $6.99 it will not be a big revnue producer--charge $2.99 than dish will celan up.

lastly the reason for sales of Blue-Ray not being hot is that most consumer can not see a difference between a DVD upconverted to 1080I and blue ray 1080P thus no need to buy that expensive BlueRay movie. Once price on the purchase of BlueRay Movies goes down to $15.00 than BlueRay will be hot.

[Hall]

Second if Dish charges $6.99 it will not be a big revnue producer--charge $2.99 than dish will celan up.

How does that ($6.99) compare to DirecTV's and other cableco's HD-VOD or HD-PPV prices ?

[8bitbytes]

First off must consumer cannot tell the difference between 1080I or 720P so this news will be a big yawn.

Second if Dish charges $6.99 it will not be a big revnue producer--charge $2.99 than dish will celan up.

lastly the reason for sales of Blue-Ray not being hot is that most consumer can not see a difference between a DVD upconverted to 1080I and blue ray 1080P thus no need to buy that expensive BlueRay movie. Once price on the purchase of BlueRay Movies goes down to $15.00 than BlueRay will be hot.

Don't forget that most consumers don't care about the small difference they perceive when the player costs $300 or more.

If someone sells a BD player for $99, BD will take off.