TIVO vs E*

**DodgerKing** · 04-14-2009 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1

What I find Funny is EchoStar didn't even work with TIVO making DVRs, But yet perfected a Great DVR.
D* and Tivo were Partners,and look where that got them.
So why couldn't D* build a DVR with Tivo that wins awards?
I hate to say it But E* great DVRs, I doubt had much of any stolen Tivo knowledge.

It got them a much better DVR than the piece of junk TiVO, in performance, reliability, function, ease of use, interface, interactive features, and quality. I realize the HRs are not as good as the VIPs, but they are still a decent DVR and have some features that are better than the VIPs and some that are not as good. Both the VIPs and the HRs are better than a TiVO.

**DodgerKing** · 04-14-2009 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1

So where is Directvs Tivo DVR? Why aren't the being made still to this day?
E* stole all the knowledge?

They're supposed to be coming. Don't ask me why anyone would want one (I guess it is due to familiarity and name recognition???)

**DodgerKing** · 04-14-2009 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Tyralak

That might be true if tivo's DVRs were any good, but they're junk.

+1,000

**Tyralak** · 04-14-2009 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by Curtis0620

Obviously they aren't, since E*'s DVR's with TiVo code are not.

And how long ago were those? It's a stupid comparison, because you're comparing an old, abandoned project with current technology. You're also assuming the small amount of code E* used from tivo in previous model receivers is what makes them great. Hoc ergo propter hoc. Think before you use logical fallacies in place of proof.

**vampz26** · 04-14-2009 12:10 PM

Yes. E* DVRs did win awards alright. And all the bitter hate-mongering invectives in the world cannot change that.

I think the original HDtivo for D* won its share of awards too. Its a shame that D* pretty much sentenced them to obsolesence by announcing their mpeg4 plans right around the time it was released. What a huge disappointment that was. I waited over a year for that HDtivo only to say 'why bother'.

**KAB** · 04-14-2009 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by DodgerKing

They're supposed to be coming. Don't ask me why anyone would want one (I guess it is due to familiarity and name recognition???)

2010.

**Curtis0620** · 04-14-2009 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by vampz26

Yes. E* DVRs did win awards alright. And all the bitter hate-mongering invectives in the world cannot change that.

I think the original HDtivo for D* won its share of awards too. Its a shame that D* pretty much sentenced them to obsolesence by announcing their mpeg4 plans right around the time it was released. What a huge disappointment that was. I waited over a year for that HDtivo only to say 'why bother'.

You won't believe this, but I agree with you 100% on this one. They also limited the features of the SD Directivos.

**Curtis0620** · 04-14-2009 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Tyralak

And how long ago were those? It's a stupid comparison, because you're comparing an old, abandoned project with current technology. You're also assuming the small amount of code E* used from tivo in previous model receivers is what makes them great. Hoc ergo propter hoc. Think before you use logical fallacies in place of proof.

Can you supply any proof that it was only a small amount of code.

**DodgerKing** · 04-14-2009 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by vampz26

Yes. E* DVRs did win awards alright. And all the bitter hate-mongering invectives in the world cannot change that.

Give it up already...It is getting old

I think the original HDtivo for D* won its share of awards too. Its a shame that D* pretty much sentenced them to obsolesence by announcing their mpeg4 plans right around the time it was released. What a huge disappointment that was. I waited over a year for that HDtivo only to say 'why bother'.

Disagree. The HRs are hands down a better DVR than the TiVO in pretty much every possible way.

**Hemi 6.1** · 04-14-2009 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by DodgerKing

It got them a much better DVR than the piece of junk TiVO, in performance, reliability, function, ease of use, interface, interactive features, and quality. I realize the HRs are not as good as the VIPs, but they are still a decent DVR and have some features that are better than the VIPs and some that are not as good. Both the VIPs and the HRs are better than a TiVO.

OK Exactly my point then. If Tivo sucked so bad, How can credit be giving to Tivo for E* HD DVR's Performance?

Lets hear it Curtis.

TIVO suck according to D* subscribers, But E* made and keeps on making fantastic DVRs.
So this is all because of Tivo?
Yea OK!