at the risk of getting bashed forever.... I Love Dish....

**RandallA** · 11-16-2008 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by kstuart

People hate Charlie, because they have a preconception of a Billionaire as some sophisticated urban guy like James Bond. When they are confronted with a successful person who doesn't meet their preconceptions, it bothers them.

I don't agree. People don't like Charlie because in the last few years this company has gone down in quality of customer service, removal of channels from packages and the nickel and dime fees and I'm sure there are other reasons. Wall Street and customers are not happy with the way this company is being run, like our new president said: "Change is needed".

**Hemi 6.1** · 11-16-2008 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by RandallA

I don't agree. People don't like Charlie because in the last few years this company has gone down in quality of customer service, removal of channels from packages and the nickel and dime fees and I'm sure there are other reasons. Wall Street and customers are not happy with the way this company is being run, like our new president said: "Change is needed".

I could not agree more!

**Hemi 6.1** · 11-16-2008 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by kstuart

Without Charlie, it would be DirecTV Bland and boring..

Really whats so boring about D*? NFL pack, MLB pack,Nascar pack,NBA pack,, Gol TV, More Free VOD then I've ever seen.? What makes D* so boring?
While again they are adding customers E* is still losing them. Change is needed.

**rey_1178** · 11-16-2008 10:52 AM

what i still love about dish? their dvr's! still the best and the example for the rest to follow. What's next for dish in dvr's will be very exciting. i wonder when others will catchup in this category?

**msmith198025** · 11-16-2008 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1

While again they are adding customers E* is still losing them. Change is needed.

And fast! More channels, more kept promises, less running it like they have done in the past. The past model wont compete in todays marketplace. I swear, sometimes they simply act like they dont care.

**Hemi 6.1** · 11-16-2008 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by msmith198025

I swear, sometimes they simply act like they dont care.

I agree, I think some of us need to wake up and look around, Because E* is far from squeaky clean.

**Hemi 6.1** · 11-16-2008 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by REY_1178

what i still love about dish? their dvr's! still the best and the example for the rest to follow. What's next for dish in dvr's will be very exciting. i wonder when others will catchup in this category?

Yes DVR and Premiums are good, For now! D* with a growing subscriber base is only going to get better,
E* with its channel dropping,Sub Losing, BS advertisements is in for the worst. E* will be dead by 2011. D* will have bought them and if Chase Carey is smart he'll kick Charle to the curb.

**scrooloose** · 11-16-2008 02:05 PM

I ahve Starchoice (I'm the opposite of you...live in US but have SC) and they got the simsub thing right. I have none due to my location. (you probably know this but I'll explain for others) the only time they can simsub is if you have that local channel near you that requests the simsub. So if I live in Toronto I would have simsubs...but my address has no OTA options so I get no simsubs.

Bell is one for all and all get simsubbed regardless of address,

The problem is that Dish doesn't have the software to do the Canadian simsub properly, since locals are handled entirely different in the US. I suppose they could request the feature, but from what I've seen the Bell software is almost identical to what Dish customers get, minus a few features. Since Bell relies entirely on Dish for support, I suspect they want to keep it that way.

-Mike

**Iceberg** · 11-16-2008 02:15 PM

But yet both can do blackouts just fine?????

It shouldnt be that hard to implement it...hell Starchoice uses motorola boxes and they can figure it out...but Bell does the cheap way and line the CRTC's pockets to get around that issue

**JonE** · 11-16-2008 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1

Really whats so boring about D*? NFL pack, MLB pack,Nascar pack,NBA pack,, Gol TV, More Free VOD then I've ever seen.? What makes D* so boring?

That's exactly it for those who could give a rat's ass about sports outside my local market. All that wasted bandwidth on something I'll never watch. I follow the local teams in three sports (Broncos, unfortunately, and the Rockies and Avalanche, yes I'm a glutton for punishment). And the only other non-market team I follow (The Red Sox) are on National TV every 24 hours or so during baseball season. Dish has more than enough sports for me, the casual sports fan. While DirecTV is at it, they can have NBA and NHL exclusively as well since they already have baseball and NFL. All the more bandwidth available for More HD.

And the same problems most of you have had with E*, I've had in the past with D*, billing issues, double charges, charges I never knew about, and the signal crapped out constantly everytime a fly landed on the dish and farted. Dish has had some signal issues, but not nearly the frequency DirecTV did. Plus the 722 is fantastic for someone like me who doesn't watch a lot of live TV. And the times I have called Customer Service, the agent has been very helpful, courteous, and knew their stuff, and if they didn't know it, they asked someone who did and I had an answer before I hung up.

I have the HD Absolute package, Locals, and all the Premiums. The same package on Comcast would cost me upwards of $100, only $65 on Dish, even if it goes up with Turbo and my local RSN(s), it will still be lower than Comcast. And don't even get me started on Comcast!