Charlie Chat Recap 3-09-09

**JimK2** · 03-10-2009 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Drone35

Where in the f*** is SPEED HD, Charlie! Im sick of this!!!! Thats the only channel I care about and he's just p**** footing around, this sucks!!! Glad were getting new HD, but WTF!!!

I'd rather have IFC HD

**dmendenjr** · 03-10-2009 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by urizen65

last night i saw a graphic containing a logo for G4hd, but just as it came up my wife changed the channel. what was it in reference to? I don't see the graphic in the chat wrap up.

Was that the G4 logo at the end of the chat? If so, it was a "thanks for the help in putting this chat together" mention, not a coming soon. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see (E! and) G4 in HD on dish, but it probably won't be happening anytime soon.

**urizen65** · 03-10-2009 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by dmendenjr

Was that the G4 logo at the end of the chat? If so, it was a "thanks for the help in putting this chat together" mention, not a coming soon. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see (E! and) G4 in HD on dish, but it probably won't be happening anytime soon.

I don't know why it came up, they weren't even discussing hd at the moment it did. the only thing i remember is that it was definitely a G4 HD logo. I recorded the chat last night, just didn't have time to review it. I guess i will have to wait until i get home tonight to scan it.

**JTBenson** · 03-10-2009 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Laddyboy

HDTV penetration was around 13% in 2007, was nearly 25% in Fall of 2008, and I suspect higher now. Those numbers are Nielson numbers via Google.

Only 13% Of US Households Have HDTV; Nielsen Releases HDTV Household Estimates

Almost Quarter Of Households Get HDTV | Benton Foundation

I can go to both my parents house and my in-laws and watch some HD (my parents through a basic HD cable package that is free and my in-laws through antenna), but they both just got theirs in January. Neither one really care about HD one bit to tell you the truth, but they if they are moving (slowly) into the HD generation, I have to believe that many others are too.

Neither one will spend the money though on the packages to get more HD that is available.

**mike123abc** · 03-10-2009 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by jdmacor

Just out of curiosity, where did you get that 10-15% figure from? The US as a whole shows a 25% HD penetration rate (this encompasses people with an HDTV and an HDTV source). Is Dish Network that far below the US rate, because that would be troubling. It shows poor performance on their part.

In the VOOM lawsuit filed last year it was about 10% of Dish Customers, 15% would be a huge 50% growth rate. So, probably somewhere in there is the current number.

**probinson** · 03-10-2009 02:04 PM

I wonder if I should be concerned that they don't even know that Youngstown is in OHIO and not PA. Probably doesn't bode well for me getting HD locals anytime soon...

**dfergie** · 03-10-2009 02:10 PM

Ok, I have announced caps up in second post, about to post possibles ...

**Laddyboy** · 03-10-2009 02:12 PM

Lots of people went HD this year, even most of my older relatives. Most of them get their locals OTA in HD but aren't getting additional HD from cable or satellite at the moment. Thus I suspect it depends on how they measure penetration. I don't know of anyone (friend, neighbor, relative) that doesn't receive some HD programming.

**jself1982** · 03-10-2009 02:16 PM

I read through the lines last night as Charlie spoke about FX and Speed HD when he clearly said their contract with them isn't up for renewal until the summer. So I take it that Dish only talks to these companies when there contracts are up for renewal which would make sense of why we never get new HD when the channel launches. Dish waits until contract renewal time and then always adds channels late.

So I guess we will get AMC HD IFC HD WE HD E! HD G4HD when all their contracts come up for renewal and who knows when that will be.