More DRM Coming?

**whatchel1** · 07-31-2009 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by Smith, P.

I concur - BM card could accept component signals what doesn't carry HDCP. Please, don't confuse ppl - be honest to that designers.

It has nothing to do with honesty. Has to do w/if the component of the device is downrezzed to 480 then source would have to be HDMI. I would tend to think that if they do the downrez then they will flag more than time limits.

**Foxbat** · 07-31-2009 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by whatchel1

And yes I think it's time for you get rid of the Mits. IMHO.

Samsung just pulled the wraps off of
the 8500 series

being released this September.

My birthday is in September...

**hammerdown** · 08-09-2009 09:41 PM

Verified that HD VOD component output is not crippled (yet). I am using component out of 722, hdmi is not even hooked up. Rented "The Unborn" 1080p Ch501. Prompted that a 15 second test would run and sure enough the Tv lost sync (it would seem the 722 can actually output 1080p over component). Then it came back when I didn't press any buttons and asked if I "want to rent the movie in a resolution that is compatible with my TV". I agreed and was able to watch the movie and it was in 1080i (not downrezzed). It actually looked pretty close to bluray, which I also run at 1080i over component on this same Tv. Not a single glitch or stutter in the whole movie. Long-live analog...

**whatchel1** · 08-10-2009 03:33 AM

If one has both the HDMI & the component output hooked up will it then output 1080p to both outputs?

**Laddyboy** · 08-10-2009 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by whatchel1

If one has both the HDMI & the component output hooked up will it then output 1080p to both outputs?

Currently, yes, if you mean 1080i. Only some PPV is 1080p.

**whatchel1** · 08-10-2009 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Laddyboy

Currently, yes, if you mean 1080i. Only some PPV is 1080p.

I said what I meant. I know the amount of 1080p is only available on PPV Which I'm think about putting a Black Magic Design card in my PC to record to a BR burner. I was pretty sure of answer when I asked Just wondering if it only outputs to the HDMI when it is hooked up to asource that shows it is hooked up to a monitor that is a 1080p 24 set.

**fos** · 08-10-2009 06:15 PM

Unfortunately, DRM is in its infancy as far as the Motion Picture and Broadcast Industries are concerned. You can take it to the bank, they have many future plans for implementing DRM. For example, as soon as it is economically feasible DRM can prevent you from skipping commercials with your DVR recordings. The only reason this is not already implemented is that the number of households with a DVR is relatively small at present.

**dlsnyder** · 08-11-2009 09:06 AM

The receiver that I had HDMI problems with was the 612. I had one briefly last year when Dish started giving them out free with a new 2 year commitment. The connector itself worked fine, but there were some image glitches on HDMI that were not present on the analog outputs. I returned it and got a 622. I have heard of others who had similar experiences with the 612. Hopefully that has been fixed now.

**harshness** · 08-11-2009 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by whatchel1

I know the amount of 1080p is only available on PPV Which I'm think about putting a Black Magic Design card in my PC to record to a BR burner. I was pretty sure of answer when I asked Just wondering if it only outputs to the HDMI when it is hooked up to asource that shows it is hooked up to a monitor that is a 1080p 24 set.

I'm nowhere near convinced that this approach makes sense. The cost of Blu-ray blank media ($9+ per 25GB disc) makes it not worth the effort.

The Black Magic HDMI card may not work at all due to handshaking.

**Totoro** · 08-11-2009 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by digiblur

Guess no one wants the PPV's being ripped with the HD Hauppauge

HD PVR Product overview

Dedicated pirates will always find a way around DRM. The only people who are affected by copy protection are legitimate customers who are unnecessarily inconvenienced.