Dish gets $97 million judgement

**digiblur** · 08-26-2009 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by DishSubLA

It doesn't matter. It really was not about getting cash. What Charlie really wanted was for Freetech to be vanquished and for this judgment to serve as a warning to any other companies who may be thinking of providing the means for people to obtain Dish Network services illegally. He just wants the practice stopped, so the money doesn't bleed out.

Do any of you remember back on 2002 or there abouts when Charlie publically accused Direct TV of deliberately being slow to address and fix its pirating problem in order to hurt Dish? I loved the days when Charlie would shoot from the lip. Personally, I think Charlie was right. Soon after, Direct TV did finally move to do an access card swap, but, man, there really were slow to get there after years of what looked like a tolerance of pirating.

And Dish wasn't slow?

It took them like....7-8 years to finally get their piracy down to a very low volume. Google will show they are not at 100% yet.

**PHXHoward** · 08-26-2009 01:11 PM

Nice! Glad to see something going Dish's way.

**Claude Greiner** · 08-27-2009 02:27 AM

Dish really didn't get anything out of this financially, except for putting a dent on piracy and making this serve as an example to other FTA manufactures.

What did Charlie really get here? A warehouse full of crappy FTA receivers that he now has to pay to properly dispose of and make sure the equipment cannot find its way back into the market.

This lawsuit should have been filed years ago when we had the blue cards, and if that happened maybe we would not have had to replace the yellow cards.

**bobvick** · 08-27-2009 09:21 AM

I didnt mean to advertise the "receivers used for stealing" I did not know that it was the only use they had, it sure seems that way though. Anway, I was just trying to make a point, that I wonder when Dish will go after these companies.
I did not know I was breaking the rules, sorry.

**digiblur** · 08-27-2009 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Claude Greiner

Dish really didn't get anything out of this financially, except for putting a dent on piracy and making this serve as an example to other FTA manufactures.

What did Charlie really get here? A warehouse full of crappy FTA receivers that he now has to pay to properly dispose of and make sure the equipment cannot find its way back into the market.

This lawsuit should have been filed years ago when we had the blue cards, and if that happened maybe we would not have had to replace the yellow cards.

The only real way was to secure the signal... the companies would have just moved stuff around to a different country and/or something else would have popped up.

They haven't fully secured the signal due to the sharing crap, but they've done a damn good job so far. I used to over hear people openly talking about FTA, and of course several said it was legal since its in their backyard..lol...as of now, I haven't heard one person talk about it around town.

I never understood it...hell when Dish had the HD Absolute program open with the rebates/credits that no one could pass up, people were buying up the HD receivers and add in 8PSK boards like candy...spending over $400-$500 for that setup.

**DishSubLA** · 08-28-2009 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by Claude Greiner

Dish really didn't get anything out of this financially, except for putting a dent on piracy and making this serve as an example to other FTA manufactures.

What did Charlie really get here? A warehouse full of crappy FTA receivers that he now has to pay to properly dispose of and make sure the equipment cannot find its way back into the market.

This lawsuit should have been filed years ago when we had the blue cards, and if that happened maybe we would not have had to replace the yellow cards.

I feel comfortable in saying that our byzantine tax code will surely allow Charlie to write it off, so it probably won't be the problem you've described

. Man, corporations can write off just about anything.

**Claude Greiner** · 08-28-2009 04:17 AM

Yea, now that you think about it Charlie will probably write off all the crappy FTA receivers at over $100 each just like they do with leased equipment.

As far as the 8PSK boards, I was selling those for years on ebay and on my website to ligitiment paying customers who wanted to upgrade their model 6000's to get all the new HD channels. The day that someone figured out how to turn those boards into a hack, my sales blew up and I sold out all of my inventory in one day and Dish was sold out of them and you could no longer get them anymore.

**apollog** · 08-28-2009 12:29 PM

Charlie will probably never seen that money, Freetech can file Chapter 9 or 13 and Charlie will be screwed again.

**KAB** · 08-28-2009 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by apollog

Charlie will probably never seen that money, Freetech can file Chapter 9 or 13 and Charlie will be screwed again.

Nah. Charlie always seems to land on his feet.

**lakebum431** · 08-28-2009 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by apollog

Charlie will probably never seen that money, Freetech can file Chapter 9 or 13 and Charlie will be screwed again.

Well Chapter 9 bankruptcy is bankruptcy for municipalities so I don't think that would help them much. And Chapter 13 is for individuals. So I think you are referring to Chapter 7 or 11?