SlingLoaded HD DVR VIP 922 Availability

**Koilvr** · 10-07-2009 12:45 AM

Insider info on 922? got to be kidding me, I called tonight and the guy had no clue but put me on hold and said he will talk to supervisor who told him it will be in December or February 2010. Now I have insider info tooo. Nobody really knows when the 922 is comin out. all I have is 7 months left on my 2yr contract sooo I can not wait for the 922 I might get it free since I will be out of commitment.

**nsafreak** · 10-07-2009 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Koilvr

Insider info on 922? got to be kidding me, I called tonight and the guy had no clue but put me on hold and said he will talk to supervisor who told him it will be in December or February 2010. Now I have insider info tooo. Nobody really knows when the 922 is comin out. all I have is 7 months left on my 2yr contract sooo I can not wait for the 922 I might get it free since I will be out of commitment.

Get the 922 for free? Little bit of wishful thinking there bud. The 922 isn't a cheap unit and Dish is billing the thing as their flagship receiver. None of their flagship receivers have ever been cheap to begin with. Sure the price of them has come down as the receiver gets older as is typical with pretty much all tech. But if you want to be an early adopter my guess is that you're looking at a $100-$200 upgrade fee plus another two year commitment.

**Cold Irons** · 10-07-2009 10:36 AM

CSR talks to his supervisor....that means he talks to the other CSR sitting next to him....

**tlc1145** · 10-07-2009 04:27 PM

My understanding is that the TiVo ruling had to do with the older DVR [500 series and such]. That the main reason E* went to the ViP series is to not have any conflict w/ TiVo's patten.

BTW, I have heard rumors that the 922 costs between 1k-1.2k to buy outright...

**Koilvr** · 10-07-2009 04:35 PM

of course it is free with a 2 yr commitment. The CSR told me and I have that recorded. With his voice and user ID or what ever number he said.

**landoncube** · 10-09-2009 11:50 PM

You are correct! I heard their conversation! He says to the other CSR, "You goin' to the Gophers?"

**Skyking69** · 10-10-2009 05:25 PM

tlc1145,

Notwithstanding some of the thinly veiled insults hurled my way

the actual litigation was:

1 - Did E* violate patent? - Judge says yes.
2 - Did E* violate order to stop violating patent? - Judge says yes.
3 - How much is the fine for violating patent? - Judge says $104 million.
3 - How much is fine for violating injunction? - Judge says $200 million.

I have been following the matter very closely, all contrarian remarks aside, because it has been either curiously or coincidentally following the same trajectory as my interest in the 922. If it was not litigation related I am almost certain there would at least be a tentative date out there. No date on a beta testing product displayed at the CES months ago and talked about for well over a year; no tentative date or reservation for current customers or anything else - I believe that says litigation issues were the reason for the delay. That is my opinion and others can certainly disagree with it, but I do not think I am being disagreeable...

I have not seen anybody take me up on my wager offer so I guess the bottom line is this - Only the lawyers and E* executives know if they were delaying consumer sales of the device due to appeals regarding their loss at every level of this litigation. I have seen no credible date or credible indicator the delay was for any reason other than the ongoing litigation, so hopefully I am wrong and we will see this thing starting to get out to the consumers.

Phil

**Pepper** · 10-10-2009 05:33 PM

As far as I know, E* has never specified a firm date of when a new device would be available, especially never on their website. Heck, it doesn't even mention the ViP722k which has been out for months.

Other threads here speak of how bad the current software is, most likely actually making the thing work right is where the holdup is.

**Skyking69** · 10-10-2009 05:51 PM

Pepper,

While I don't want to hijack my own thread

, my understanding is the 722 has a connection for over-the-air HD antenna connection and the 722k does not; what other differences are there?

Thanks,

Phil

**bebop** · 10-10-2009 07:22 PM

Skyking - the release of the 922 has nothing to do with the lawsuit. The 722k has an OTA module. And you are not listening to what others are posting here.

Are you aware of the aspect of the lawsuit that identifies the specific models of receiver from Dish that were of concern? If not, you may want to freshen up on that first.

Guesswork and assumptions are not the answer here.