2 dish vs 1 dish

**thenight11** · 11-01-2009 05:08 PM

I had 2 dishes one being the 61.5 that were replaced for one dish(1k) yesterday. The problem with the new dish is the 129 sat is not locking in. I was told it was my trees..cut those cleared it out and still have the same problem when the installer came out today to check the signal. I'm just pondering maybe to ask for the original setup because of the problems I'm having. I have three receivers if that matters

**jeffero** · 11-01-2009 09:38 PM

They can make adjustments to peoples reciever boxes if you're having trouble. I don't know what they did but the picture is looking better. Right now I'm watching The Haunting of Molly Hartley in HD on Starz and it looks almost as good as if I owned the DVD. I know no satellite or cable TV service has totally crystal clear HD. There is a give and take. I think for the price I'm paying for Dish I'm getting the best quality and maybe better than a more expensive service and have a nice DVR reciever

I don't know if 61.5 would have a sharper picture (I think it would) and may switch to that again someday but I live near an expressway and the 61.5 dish is facing it and I think it was getting bad interference that's why I had them come to move me to 129 and at that time requested a new Dish and the installer didn't complain and went ahead and put a 1k2 up instead of adding an LNB to my old oval shaped 1000 dish that I started with in 2006.

**mike123abc** · 11-01-2009 09:41 PM

The number of receivers is not the issue. A dish will support 12-24 receivers without issue.

The only real difference that most subscribers would see between 61.5 and 129 is with local channels. Some locals are on both, but many are only on one of the two satellites. If you do not sub to locals it should not matter. There are of course a few channels that are different between the two. 61.5 still has some internationals on it.

**jeffero** · 11-01-2009 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by thenight11

I had 2 dishes one being the 61.5 that were replaced for one dish(1k) yesterday. The problem with the new dish is the 129 sat is not locking in. I was told it was my trees..cut those cleared it out and still have the same problem when the installer came out today to check the signal. I'm just pondering maybe to ask for the original setup because of the problems I'm having. I have three receivers if that matters

Give it awhile for everything to sync also. Sometimes it takes awhile for everything to get locked in with the best possible picture. I think having a 1k2 is better than having a wing dish. If you still have the wing dish you can always revert to it at a later date and maybe have both 129 and 61.5 and let them fight to get use.

**thenight11** · 11-01-2009 10:40 PM

thanks for all the quick replies. Ill stay pat with the current setup for a day or two to see if syncs up and go from there. If not i think ill just revert to the old setup

**whatchel1** · 11-02-2009 01:54 AM

Tell us what signal strength you have on the tps 17 and above on 129. If they are weak you have a problem with them. It is either one of three reasons: 1 LOS issue to 129, 2 The dish isn't peaked well, & 3 bad LNB on 129. If 1st of the 3 the 61.5 is a better option for you.

**jeffero** · 11-03-2009 12:27 PM

Mine are in the high 50's to low 60's on most of the transponders on from 17 on up and a few are coming in at 71 to 77 on 129W.

**digiblur** · 11-03-2009 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeffero

Give it awhile for everything to sync also. Sometimes it takes awhile for everything to get locked in with the best possible picture. I think having a 1k2 is better than having a wing dish. If you still have the wing dish you can always revert to it at a later date and maybe have both 129 and 61.5 and let them fight to get use.

It doesn't take a while to "sync". If you do a check switch and it isn't there, it's never going to pop in. After the trees were cut they should have done a check switch again, but this doesn't guarantee it would work either since the installer didn't have a 129 signal to tweak the signal on in the first place.

A wing will be better than the 1000.2... I can tell you for a fact since I had a 110/119/61.5 setup before I moved. I brought the setup with me a used 129 instead since there was no LOS to 61.5 at the location where I wanted the dish mounted. So I pointed the wing to 129. So, this gave me a D500 for 110/119 and a wing for 129. I recently switched it out to a D1000.2 and the signals aren't as good as the previous setup. But it's only been a difference of around 10 points or so. No biggie...and it makes the old lady happy that I got rid of a dish.

**jeffero** · 11-04-2009 01:02 AM

My picture quality has improved greatly since after I first got the 1000.2 but I did have someone from Dish Network out here who had their tech support note that my picture quality looked crappy even after he gave me a brand new DVR box which I think I needed anyway because the old one was to loud. I can say that it looks the same as the 61.5 satellite setup I had. I don't know if there is much difference. I actually think it may look better.

**SandFarmer** · 11-27-2009 06:01 AM

I had a two dish set up since we first needed it to get locals and it was completely trouble free. No drop outs due to weather and nice strong signals. Then when I had a 722 installed in Sept of 2008 they said I had to have a 1000.2. I was just thrilled to be getting HD that I did not ask any questions. So right now I have a 722 and 625 on the 1000.2 and a 501 on the second dish (500). It doesn't matter how many masts are on the top of the chimney . . .

. . . my neighbors know I am a Techotard. I'm trying to get my brothers old "bow tie" dish from when he beta tested Internet with DISH. That'll really freak the neighbors.

The Winter following the install was very mild and we had no weather that would have caused any problems. But this year right off the top I had 35" of snow in my yard for the first snow. We lost everything and with weather/cloud cover that did not affected us in the past. The dish was completely clean. The more South facing dishes (110/119) get covered with snow and the wing to 129 is always clean and clear. The slight change in direction makes a world of difference. During these last two snows the 500 which had snow on it was working great for the 501 and the 722 and 625 were constantly up and down mainly related to 129. This is something that we have never experienced and I do not like it. Because what do you do when you are snow bound? What TV!

Prior to calling DISH I spent a great deal of time in here reading as much as I could find and realized that I would be better off with my original set up. So I had a tech come out to do the reset and ended up with a field supervisor, great guy, because of a few complications. Anyway, he knew I had scheduled to have the old two config reinstalled but he talked me into trying some tweaks first (which are not matching the advice given here to zero in with a 1000.2). Needless to say they are not working at all. We are having more 129 related issues than ever before even with clear skies.

So I gather from all that has been said here, just to be sure before I call the FS back, that I would be better off with the dual dish set up, correct? I had it once with all the necessary gear and years of trouble free operation.

Any assistance/advice will be greatly appreciated.

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