Any other "movers" in a deep fringe area.....

[digiblur]

SatelliteGuys.US - Subscription 119°W

What is this based on, because right on the northern yellow line and with the larger international dish1000+/LNBF for 110,118,119,129 @ 119 tp1=75% on a 301 model (120% on a 3900 model), tp 3 65% (110% on 3900)

I used to have the smaller dish 500 until a year ago and I remember they were about 20 points lower on the 3900 or 90%-100%.

OP, I do not understand this whole thing about losing signal in winter, maybe you need a new LNBF that can handle the temperature change from 90s on summer days to 30s on winter nights.

Nothing wrong with the LNB... I've heard many times that deep fringe movers lose spotbeams in the winter. Possibly less "sun time" on the solar arrays forces them to back the power down a bit?

[cj9788]

Rafaleccs:

Thanks for the info, I could care less if the CM dish (or any dish) can pick up 110 and 119 @ same time. I use 2 separate dishes for each sat. I always planned on getting a larger dish than one meter but like I said lnb compatibilty has been my issue. On my winegard dish I did have to remove the plastic housing around the lnb but they provided round inserts to fill the gap. I never thought to fill the space with duct tape. Good Idea.


Digiblur:

I am worried about the new sat planned for 119w, my biggest fear is that they will have a more focused beam and with that the signal may not reach as far as it does now.

[Rafaelccs]

Echostar has to keep an eye on all satellites. They let them bounce around a bit as long as the US is covered and the DMA's are covered by the beams. They do not take "movers" into account.

E7 is not being replaced due to station keeping issues. The main reason it is being replaced as it was one the first spotbeam satellite they put up, it has older spotbeam technology. E14 has much better uplink and downlink spotbeam technology allowing more bandwidth.

Digiblur:

Of course all satellites must have station keep, I never stated they are drifting arround by them selves.

Probably what you state is true (old spotbeam technology) I state EVII had issues only because I once went to a Echostar summit's at Engineering area (like a tech area where the engineers where sitted and we could ask questions) and asked why the bird (119 W) strays out of target a bit, they said they had some technical issues with it and told me if I noticed drifting I coul call Dishnetwork Engineering department executive offices (@ Englewood Colorado plus a number I can't post) I help with some installations in Puerto Rico once in a while and we broght it up due to the fact 119 W had sometimes low readings.....

When you go to the next summit you could ask them at the engineering desk probably I misunderstood but thats what I learned that day.

Best Regards.

[r10fret]

Possibly less "sun time" on the solar arrays forces them to back the power down a bit?

Less sun time, at the equator in a geo orbit? That makes no sense!

The satellite is not on earth, If you watch dish earth for example you are saying that just because it is fall/winter in the northern hemi we would see that a satellte in geo orbit like the one with a camera would be in the Earth's shadow longer because it is winter on Earth in the northern hemi, even though the satellite is located in space over the equator. If that theory was true then night (Earth's shadow) would also have to be longer in space over the equator whenever it is also winter in the southern hemi.

Seems a more plausible explantion would be something like echostar reduces the power during non thunderstorm season.

But all this is very interesting, I guess I will have to start recording Dish Earth every night and start making my own calculations over the next month.

[cj9788]

Any other "movers" in a deep fringe area experiancing signal loss issues?

I live 350 miles from the spotbeam I sub to and latey I have been having signal issues on the spotbeam. It has been going out for several hours. Yesterday it went out at about 2:00pm and did not come back till after 9:30PM. tODAY LOOKS LIKE THE SAME THING.

[Volmaul]

I am just barely in the green area for the Atlanta spotbeam, but I don't guess I'm "fringe." I haven't yet had a problem with my "move" though. It would help someone answer your question if you mentioned your approximate location and the spotbeam you are getting.

[whatchel1]

Any other "movers" in a deep fringe area experiancing signal loss issues?

I live 350 miles from the spotbeam I sub to and latey I have been having signal issues on the spotbeam. It has been going out for several hours. Yesterday it went out at about 2:00pm and did not come back till after 9:30PM. tODAY LOOKS LIKE THE SAME THING.

We would need more info about what spot you are trying to keep going. But mostly it sounds like you need a bigger dish to stay locked.

[cj9788]

Thanks guys, I live in Middleburg fl about 350 miles from Miami. I do in fact use a 1 meter dish for the 119w sat i sub to e*. This is the third winter this has happend and am thinking it is time for a larger dish.

BTW the lnb works fine and I tripled checked allinmnet. (Sorry I am a bad speller). All othe tp's on this dish are at 125 on my old 3900. I have 90 on spot 5 110 on spot 11 and nothing on spot 9. But the spot 3 and 5 is what I a need for miami loclas.





BTW SATGUYS RULES DBSTALK WONT EVEN LET ME ASK!

[digiblur]

I'm shocked you get that with a one meter! According to the maps, you are just outside of the 39dBw line! If someone would have asked me before in that area I would have said at least a 2 meter and lots of luck to you.

The beam that looks like for Miami on E14 will be about the same size, just a tad bit smaller. Probably not worth it at all. I'd find another location.

It's Spotbeam 15, not 3 and 5 by the way.

Here's the beams for E14 (based on normal installation sizes) - http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-net...ml#post1842789

And of course the current beams can be found on TheList link in my sig.

[MikeInAlaska]

Looking at the satellite coverage maps like this one:
SatelliteGuys.US - Subscription 119°W

What do the green, yellow and red lines indicate? Can they be roughly translated to - "you need a X sized dish to receive here"