withe upgraded EA (post nimiq-5)

**johnner1999** · 12-13-2009 08:17 AM

Have people in the NorthEast had less rain/snow fade when using Eastern Arc dish?

**patsfan72** · 12-13-2009 11:45 AM

i lose 61.5 during snow and rain,but never lose 110 or 119 in springfield .which is kinda annoying because most of the hd is on 61.5

**Scott Greczkowski** · 12-13-2009 12:07 PM

Actually the Eastern Arc dish has a lot more snow fade because of the angle of the dish and the satellites in the sky the dish fills up quick with snow.

Its one of the only disadvantages of the Eastern Arc setup.

**flampher** · 12-13-2009 12:17 PM

Now that you mention it It does seem like it has been better

**Hemi 6.1** · 12-13-2009 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

Actually the Eastern Arc dish has a lot more snow fade because of the angle of the dish and the satellites in the sky the dish fills up quick with snow.

Its one of the only disadvantages of the Eastern Arc setup.

Lets not get too crazy now.

The angle of the dish isn't that drastic.
I've had no more snow Fade with the 1000.4 or anyother satellite dish including D*
I live 1,950 above sea level in the Pocono Mt's.
The angle setting might be about 40-42*
But the Dish itself is still about 90% strait up and down.
Its not sitting flat on the mount.

**johnner1999** · 12-13-2009 07:04 PM

Scott -- Hmmm never thought of that, always assumed the more "up" the LNB was the less tree issues I would have. But I see what you are saying the more "up" it is the actual reflector can act like a bowl. Too bad Clack Griswald's (sp?) non-stick spry didn't come to market LOL.. Since we are both in CT how much snow collects? Since mine is (would) be mounted far far away from easy access.

Hemi - PA I assume is "close" to the same settings does your 1000.4 collect much snow?

I just wish I knew why my previous DirecTV setup started getting rainfade or searching for satellite for maybe 20-45 seconds per 30-60 min at random even if it was nice out but did happen more when overcast. Had 2 techs one was even a "senior" sent from the OOP team - both said the dish was peaked and didn't adjust; said my DVR's might be getting "old" but I didn't want to sign a 24 month ext to find our LOL

And using Tivo with Cable and the damn cable cards and tuning adapters is way worse LOL

OK sorry for hi-jacking my own post and rambling on....

John

**MikeD-C05** · 12-13-2009 07:11 PM

Well I am glad that snow is not much a problem in southeast Texas. It snowed but didn't stick last Saturday and a year ago on the 11th of December we had about 2 or 3 inches that did stick . OF course last year in December I was using the Western arc 1000.2 sat dish. I am using the eastern arc dish that I installed myself and I am getting the following signal strengths on all three sats;

77 sat 50 -58
72.7 sat 60-70
61.5 sat 41-70

**david_jr** · 12-13-2009 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by patsfan72

i lose 61.5 during snow and rain,but never lose 110 or 119 in springfield .which is kinda annoying because most of the hd is on 61.5

Have you tried a repeak? I was having similar problem last winter then repeaked and now 61.5 is same reliability as 110 & 119. At least here. The second tech that came out used a hand held meter and the improvement was huge.

**Hemi 6.1** · 12-14-2009 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by johnner1999

Hemi - PA I assume is "close" to the same settings does your 1000.4 collect much snow?

Its not going to be any different then if you have a Directv slimline,or a Dish 500 wing pointed at the 61.5.
If this is still a concern, I suggest mounting the dish Low enough to clean the snow and Ice off of it.

**ERSanders** · 12-14-2009 07:47 AM

I have been on EA for about a year now after moving to a new house with WA LOS issues.

I found that, as Scott says, the angle of the dish is more upward, thus making it more likely to collect snow and ice. Because of this I found that it did collect a significant amount of snow compared with WA. This summer I installed a HotShot electrical dish heater on the front of the dish. I have used these before and expect a total solution to the snow/ice issue.

Also, I have found that the more upward point of the dish has resulted in fewer thunderstom outages. I believe that this is due to Less acute angle (to the horizon) prescribing a smaller "circle of influence" to the 30,000 foot (or so) thunderheads. Or maybe it was just a nicer summer!