Echostar files to move E6 to 61.5W

**dmag** · 02-13-2010 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by KAB

And as per usual, totally uneducated as to the matter. No one at Dish Planned on the failure of current 61.5. Sh*t happened.

I probably should have spent some more time in my previous email and explained my thought in a little more detail.

I understand that the 61.5 failure was totally unexpected and I can't blame Dish for the failure. And I do believe that Dish's original plan was to light the new HD up on 61.5 for those that have 110/119/61.5 configuration.

What I was responding to was the suggestion that Dish is now reconsidering moving the new HD to 61.5 from the 72.7 bird. Scott is usually dead on the money with his news, and if he says Dish is reconsidering because of the costs they are incurring in upgrading existing customers then I believe him.

My point is that if Dish had come clean up front, and told the 110/119/61.5 people there would be a delay in their new HD but they should be up in a month or two, I don't think you would have had the rush of people pushing for upgrades.

Saying "A small number of customers have configurations that currently do not allow them to receive the recently launched HD channels. As each situation is unique, we are working with customers who wish to receive the channels on a case-by-case basis to determine the best solution for them." Implies that there is no plan for their HD and, in effect, forces them to ask for upgrades. The same upgrades that Dish is saying will now keep them from moving HD to the 61.5 bird.

You are correct, Sh*t happens. The difference between a well run company and a second tier company is how they handle it.

**nlk10010** · 02-14-2010 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

I wouldn't say it's speculation look at all we announced here this year alone all of it on the money.

I see lots of internal conversations and documents that I am sure dish does not want me to see.

From what I am hearing now is it's costing a lit for them to upgrade people they don't want to pay all this money for hardware upgrades to just apply a band aid for a month thus the reason are not moving the channels back to 61.5 when a healthy bird is there.

For someone who is ill informed I am awfully damn accurate.

With that said I am just passing along what I hear.

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Scott, so you're saying that Charlie is now blaming us for not moving HD over to the new satellite when it arrives? If only we would have trusted him all would have been well in a month? We forced him to change his long-range plans and move national HD off 61.5 (or was he planning this anyway and just decided not to implement the interim step)?

**mike123abc** · 02-14-2010 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by nlk10010

Scott, so you're saying that Charlie is now blaming us for not moving HD over to the new satellite when it arrives? If only we would have trusted him all would have been well in a month? We forced him to change his long-range plans and move national HD off 61.5 (or was he planning this anyway and just decided not to implement the interim step)?

Sounds to me that Dish has decided that they are spending a lot to move people off of 61.5/110/119, so they are going to maximize their investment and go ahead and use 72.7 for HD in the future. This frees them up from the 61.5/129 balancing act.

**nlk10010** · 02-14-2010 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by mike123abc

Sounds to me that Dish has decided that they are spending a lot to move people off of 61.5/110/119, so they are going to maximize their investment and go ahead and use 72.7 for HD in the future. This frees them up from the 61.5/129 balancing act.

Yea, that sounds reasonable, although how wise a decision financially it would be also depends on how many people are left with what now I'm sure Charlie is referring to as "legacy setups".

**Jim5506** · 02-15-2010 01:55 PM

If they intended to move the new HD back to 61.5, they should just say so and tell the whiners to be patient while they play musical satellites.

**cosmo_kramer** · 02-15-2010 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by mike123abc

Sounds to me that Dish has decided that they are spending a lot to move people off of 61.5/110/119, so they are going to maximize their investment and go ahead and use 72.7 for HD in the future. This frees them up from the 61.5/129 balancing act.

And also opens up the possibility of full-time HD RSNs, now that the bandwidth would be available on 61.5. While not all RSNs offer 24/7 HD programming, at least we wouldn't have to play musical chairs with "Will my game be in HD tonight??"

**MikeD-C05** · 02-15-2010 04:41 PM

DISH needs to go ahead and upgrade all subs that are in eastern arc areas to eastern arc dishes, especially if they are HD subs. Charge 15.00 for it and then credit it back to the subs at 5.00 a month till it is done. Then it won't matter if the hd is on 72.7, 77 or 61.5 sats. Same as on western arc dishes you have hd strung out on 110 and 129 sats. DISH should of announced this prior to the launch of the new hd, that they would schedule an upgrade to the eastern arc dish ,at least a couple of weeks out so everyone could of been ready for the launch . INstead of the half ass way they did this . As usual it caused irritation and frustration and more bad will towards DISH, over the way they are handling it now.

**navychop** · 02-15-2010 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by mike123abc

Sounds to me that Dish has decided that they are spending a lot to move people off of 61.5/110/119, so they are going to maximize their investment and go ahead and use 72.7 for HD in the future. This frees them up from the 61.5/129 balancing act.

Certainly sounds like the plan to me. An accelerated move over to EA & WA.

And I'd gladly accept the fractional pennies rounded off on the bill amounts from the "second tier company" that built itself from scratch. I'd be rich. Or rich enough.

OT: After watching my neighbor across the street for the last half hour, I'm now in favor of requiring some kind of "snow & ice" test for driver's licenses.

(and no, I'm in no position to help her.)

**TNGTony** · 02-15-2010 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Jim5506

If they intended to move the new HD back to 61.5, they should just say so and tell the whiners to be patient while they play musical satellites.

Whiner: n. - Person with a legitimate complaint expressing displeasure of the inconvenience, expense and unfairness of a business decision.

Got it.

**ndcoop** · 02-15-2010 05:44 PM

I am a novice and have been reading many threads. I currently have two dishes, one for 110/119 and the other for 61.5. I am not currently getting the new HD channels. Am I correct in my interpretation that I will be getting the new HD stations, but it will be about a month? If so, is it because a new bird is going to 61.5? If not, why can I not get the new Hd stations if I currently have a dish pointed at 61.5? Thanks in advance for any help.