Echostar files to move E6 to 61.5W

**rocatman** · 02-04-2010 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

There is still space at 61.5 for them. They were on 61.5 until a few weeks ago when Dish moved them over to 77 to load test the satellite.

Its easy for them to move them back.

I think you mean the Nimiq 5 satellite at 72.7 W not 77 W. If there is room for additional HD programming on 61.5 W right now, when E-6 gets moved over to 61.5 W, I would expect that the WA would then have the limiting capacity for adding more CONUS programming although the E-14 launch and conversion to 8PSK on the WA may change that.

**Scott Greczkowski** · 02-04-2010 11:50 AM

Correct. to many 7's...

Maybe I should go play the lottery today.

**Iceberg** · 02-04-2010 12:08 PM

or go to the casino

**jerryez** · 02-04-2010 12:21 PM

How much of the National HD is on 61.5 not including locals.

**Iceberg** · 02-04-2010 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by jerryez

How much of the National HD is on 61.5 not including locals.

a fair amount....at least 45-50 by quickly scrolling
SatelliteGuys.US - Subscription 61.5°W

now on a TP when there is more than one channel listed, its just remapped. So it only counts once (no there isnt 3 HD channels of ESPN2 on one transponder)

**HDRoberts** · 02-04-2010 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by rocatman

For the Eastern Arc (EA), the E-15 satellite is scheduled to launch in late 2010 (more probably in early 2011) to 61.5 W. It is a CONUS only satellite having no spotbeams. It should be noted that when the E-6 CONUS only satellite moves to 61.5 W, the E-12 satellite at 61.5 W might be able to use more of its spotbeam capacity for the EA. In addition, the QuetzSat-1 satellite is scheduled for launch in August of 2011 to 77 W. Dish will have use of 24 TPs on this satellite for use in the U.S. and it is expected that most of these should be for spotbeams.

Seriously? Are they planning on moving all EA HD local markets to an EA dish? E12 won't last forever (and is already having power problems), and many of us get our HD locals from 61.5. Even if there is a lot of space on Quetzsat-1, we will need repointed.

I was kind of hoping E15 would be a mirror of Ciel-2, with a ton of spots. Guess I've got years to wait now before we even get a chance of CW/PBS/MNTV in HD. While TP 17, 19, 21, and 23 have a spotbeam option, I'm not sure there exists the power or the uplink capacity for Dish to utilize it even with E6 at 61.5.

**Cegarrett** · 02-04-2010 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by digiblur

Not sure which DMA you are talking about but in another forum an engineer from a Shreveport station indicated Dish is preparing for Shreveport HD locals on E-14.

I'm in Shreveport. Thanks for the info, Digi! I thought they had just forgotten about us.

**digiblur** · 02-04-2010 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by HDRoberts

Seriously? Are they planning on moving all EA HD local markets to an EA dish? E12 won't last forever (and is already having power problems), and many of us get our HD locals from 61.5. Even if there is a lot of space on Quetzsat-1, we will need repointed.

I was kind of hoping E15 would be a mirror of Ciel-2, with a ton of spots. Guess I've got years to wait now before we even get a chance of CW/PBS/MNTV in HD. While TP 17, 19, 21, and 23 have a spotbeam option, I'm not sure there exists the power or the uplink capacity for Dish to utilize it even with E6 at 61.5.

Remember E12 is far from being fully utilized. Some downlink beams can not use all of their transponders due to them strapping multiple downlink beams to one uplink beam. There are also several beams pointed at the west coast that are not turned on at all. So it may have power problems but that would only affect the bird if they needed all the beams running.

**nelson61** · 02-04-2010 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by HDRoberts

Seriously? Are they planning on moving all EA HD local markets to an EA dish? E12 won't last forever (and is already having power problems), and many of us get our HD locals from 61.5. Even if there is a lot of space on Quetzsat-1, we will need repointed.

I was kind of hoping E15 would be a mirror of Ciel-2, with a ton of spots. Guess I've got years to wait now before we even get a chance of CW/PBS/MNTV in HD. While TP 17, 19, 21, and 23 have a spotbeam option, I'm not sure there exists the power or the uplink capacity for Dish to utilize it even with E6 at 61.5.

I am not aware of any published design details for E15. I would speculate that it will have both spot and Conus capability.

The failed AMC 14 conus satellite was not designed for 61.5W. Dish/Echostar wanted something there fast and leased it near end of construction.

**HDRoberts** · 02-04-2010 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by nelson61

I am not aware of any published design details for E15. I would speculate that it will have both spot and Conus capability.

The failed AMC 14 conus satellite was not designed for 61.5W. Dish/Echostar wanted something there fast and leased it near end of construction.

That's what I thought, too, but rocatman seems to be pretty up on these matters. Should find out for sure in a few months when the schedule s is released.