Echostar files to move E6 to 61.5W

**nelson61** · 02-04-2010 01:10 PM

They definitely are hurting. Looks like southern california will be 0 to marginal at best.

**MikeInAlaska** · 02-04-2010 01:27 PM

Alaskans use 110/119/129, so if they did turn up a 148, what would they put on it?

**digiblur** · 02-04-2010 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by nelson61

They definitely are hurting. Looks like southern california will be 0 to marginal at best.

Doesn't look too bad. Anyone using EA birds in CA is purely a hobbyist in the first place when WA is easy to get in CA in a majority of the cases.

**whatchel1** · 02-04-2010 01:59 PM

I think it might be time very soon for E3 to have a catastrophic engine faiure that sends it to the sat graveyard at 48K miles.

**mike123abc** · 02-04-2010 02:18 PM

E3 has been defective since it launched. They found out that when they went to full power on the TPs it overheated. Then the TPs started to fail at a fast rate. They ran out of spares and have been having to run with unused frequencies since they do not have spare TPs to cover the outages. Dish had a bad run of satellites E3, E4, E5 all did not do well, and started failing early.

But, almost every satellite up there has some problem.

**rocatman** · 02-04-2010 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by nelson61

I am not aware of any published design details for E15. I would speculate that it will have both spot and Conus capability.

The failed AMC 14 conus satellite was not designed for 61.5W. Dish/Echostar wanted something there fast and leased it near end of construction.

Sorry, my bad, I believe E-15 will have spotbeam capacity as well as CONUS capacity. Ideally, Dish could put all the EA national programming on 72.7 W using all 32 TPs (with MPEG-4) and then use both 61.5 W and 77 W for spotbeams. Then an EA customer would only need a dish to see 61.5/72.7 W or 72.7/77 W.

In regards to AMC-14, Dish originally had a lease with SES for it at 105.5 W, a DBS tweener slot but after the FCC wouldn't allow it to go there it was reconfigured for 61.5 W so it would have done just fine at 61.5 W if there wasn't a launch vehicle failure.

**HDRoberts** · 02-04-2010 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by nelson61

They definitely are hurting. Looks like southern california will be 0 to marginal at best.

Looks to me like Northern Maine will be the larger problem. Like Digi said, no one in SoCal has 61.5. But I bet some in Maine do.

**HDRoberts** · 02-04-2010 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by rocatman

Sorry, my bad, I believe E-15 will have spotbeam capacity as well as CONUS capacity. Ideally, Dish could put all the EA national programming on 72.7 W using all 32 TPs (with MPEG-4) and then use both 61.5 W and 77 W for spotbeams. Then an EA customer would only need a dish to see 61.5/72.7 W or 72.7/77 W.

In regards to AMC-14, Dish originally had a lease with SES for it at 105.5 W, a DBS tweener slot but after the FCC wouldn't allow it to go there it was reconfigured for 61.5 W so it would have done just fine at 61.5 W if there wasn't a launch vehicle failure.

Ahh, very good. But I'm not so sure Dish duplicating all 61.5 spots on 77 is an efficient use of space.

**rocatman** · 02-04-2010 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by HDRoberts

Ahh, very good. But I'm not so sure Dish duplicating all 61.5 spots on 77 is an efficient use of space.

I think you are confused at what I am saying. The spotbeams at 61.5 W wouldn't be duplicated at 77 W. What I was trying to say was that EA customers would have their locals come from either 61.5 W or 77 W so an EA customer wouldn't need to have a dish to pick up all three slots only two, 72.7 W and the one with their locals on it. This would make it easier and cheaper to install the dish. To add on to this concept, I don't see Dish having enough uplinks to use all 32 TPs at 61.5 W for spotbeams so perhaps some of the international programming could stay there as well as perhaps EA distant networks or other speciality programming.