Echostar files to move E6 to 61.5W

**rocatman** · 02-11-2010 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by rocatman

I am surprised Dish waited this long to apply for this move. I would expect quick approval by the FCC. The downlink coverage map for E-6 at 61.5 W looks very good except for a good portion of Maine and the southern part of Texas. The Florida Keys may also have some problems. I guess the question is whether Dish waits until E-6 is moved to add more HD programming or just puts it on Nimiq 5 at 72.7 W until E-6 gets to 61.5 W. I know it will piss off the 61.5/110/119 W folks but it may only be for about a month or so.

Sorry my speculation came true about the new HD programming going to 72.7 W and not to 61.5 W.

**nlk10010** · 02-11-2010 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by rocatman

Sorry my speculation came true about the new HD programming going to 72.7 W and not to 61.5 W.

That's OK. Not your fault.

Actually, I hope your other speculation; i.e. that Dish will actually succeed in moving the satellite to 61.5 within a reasonable period of time and intends to put the new HD up on it, comes true as well.

That's the $64,000 question!

**rocatman** · 02-11-2010 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by nlk10010

That's OK. Not your fault.

Actually, I hope your other speculation; i.e. that Dish will actually succeed in moving the satellite to 61.5 within a reasonable period of time and intends to put the new HD up on it, comes true as well.

That's the $64,000 question!

I have no doubt that Dish will get to move the E-6 satellite to 61.5 W quite quickly. I really question whether Dish will move the new HD programming from 72.7 W to 61.5 W. I believe Dish's long range plan for the Eastern Arc (EA) is to have have as much of the national programming on 72.7 W as possible since Nimiq 5 is a CONUS only satellite and use 61.5 W and 77 W primarily for locals. See my previous posts in this thread. To add on to my previous speculation, one option would to put all the SD channels that have duplicate HD channels on the 61.5 W and/or 77 W CONUS TPs as well as some international programming.

**nlk10010** · 02-11-2010 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by rocatman

I have no doubt that Dish will get to move the E-6 satellite to 61.5 W quite quickly. I really question whether Dish will move the new HD programming from 72.7 W to 61.5 W. I believe Dish's long range plan for the Eastern Arc (EA) is to have have as much of the national programming on 72.7 W as possible since Nimiq 5 is a CONUS only satellite and use 61.5 W and 77 W primarily for locals. See my previous posts in this thread. To add on to my previous speculation, one option would to put all the SD channels that have duplicate HD channels on the 61.5 W and/or 77 W CONUS TPs as well as some international programming.

Oh, OK, sorry I mistakenly attributed that second piece of speculation to you.

If you're correct, of course, then those of us non-EAers with 61.5s are going to have to upgrade to 1000.2 or 1000.4 dishes. I'm not even sure I can; given the FIOS triple-play bundle (and the way Charlie's handled this) it might be time to re-evaluate my TV provider.

Thanks for the correction.

**drdroo** · 02-11-2010 01:03 PM

Moved my 110/119 to 61.5 / 72.7 around 3am. That wasn't too hard to align. Getting a piece of 77 here isn't so easy though since 82 is close enough to blast the heck out of my meter. Managed to get about 50/50 on 61.5 and 72.7 without a lot of work.

I'll be going back to my 110/119 / 61.5 setup because of my locals, but hopefully they'll get this sorted out or I'll be buying a DPP44 and doing 72.7 / 61.5 / 110 / 119 I guess.

**datwell** · 02-11-2010 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by nlk10010

Oh, OK, sorry I mistakenly attributed that second piece of speculation to you.

If you're correct, of course, then those of us non-EAers with 61.5s are going to have to upgrade to 1000.2 or 1000.4 dishes. I'm not even sure I can; given the FIOS triple-play bundle (and the way Charlie's handled this) it might be time to re-evaluate my TV provider.

Thanks for the correction.

Yup. If Charlie & Co. will bring the new channels up on 61.5 in a few weeks, I can wait. If I have to have a new dish and I have to pay them to install it, then I too will be into re-evaluation mode (FIOS). Big time. This ball is in Charlie's court.

**juan** · 02-11-2010 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by datwell

Yup. If Charlie & Co. will bring the new channels up on 61.5 in a few weeks, I can wait. If I have to have a new dish and I have to pay them to install it, then I too will be into re-evaluation mode (FIOS). Big time. This ball is in Charlie's court.

not to mention replaceing non-mpeg 4 receivers

**datwell** · 02-11-2010 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by juan

not to mention replaceing non-mpeg 4 receivers

Juan: The 622 & 722 can handle mpeg4, that's not the issue. We are among Charlie's best customers and have been all along (check out my signature). My bill takes a boost evey year and this time is no exception.

Let me get this straight - my bill just went up and I must pay them more to get the new channels???

FIOS is available here - we have the internet & telephone package only - we wanted to keep Dish because we like Dish in general and we love the DVRs. A new dish at no cost to us is ok and/or put the new channels up on 61.5 in a few weeks is ok, but

If Charlie doesn't do right by us...

**mike123abc** · 02-11-2010 02:33 PM

I think that Dish will not turn on E6 at 61.5 unless they have to do so. I think they will just move it over there in case the rest of E3 goes belly up. It is better to take care of the customers that have the 61.5 problem now and get them settled on either EA or WA and remove the hybrids. But, I think they are now worried that E3 could bite the dust at any time.

**drdroo** · 02-11-2010 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by mike123abc

I think that Dish will not turn on E6 at 61.5 unless they have to do so. I think they will just move it over there in case the rest of E3 goes belly up. It is better to take care of the customers that have the 61.5 problem now and get them settled on either EA or WA and remove the hybrids. But, I think they are now worried that E3 could bite the dust at any time.

In my case I'll still be a Hybrid really. My locals are on 110/119 so basically I'll end up being 61.5 72.7 110 119 probably. If they'd launch my HD locals, I'd probably be in a good place but I haven't had any success latching onto 77. 82 is so hot here (62-67 on my Acutrac III+ that it is damned hard to find 77.

I have discussion going back and forth with Dish on Twitter. We'll see what they say. It might just end up that I will be buying an additional Dish500 and a DPP44 from DishStore. 61.5 and 72.7 are probably better off having separate dishes, though I was able to peak a signal strength of 48 using a single Dish500. I could probably work it and get better, but it was cold around 3am.