Question regarding 222 vs 222k

**sailwind** · 03-05-2010 01:57 PM

I'm trying to decide whether to go for a 222 at a cheap price or 222k. Aside from the color difference, are there any PQ difference or things that will limit my set up?

OTA: Just a simple HD coax antenna for local channels

TV1:
HDMI, would like to watch both OTA and Dish channels

TV2:
Upstairs, coax. Would like to watch dish + OTA local. It's okay if the OTA is not HD.

Questions:
1) Would a 222 satisfy my needs?
2) Is there significant PQ increase with 222k?
3) Do I need to pay anything to swap out my current 322?
4) Do I need to pay a HD receiver fee even if I don't have HD programming subscribed? (Just need local HD for now. May upgrade to dish HD later).

Thanks much.

**jelle** · 03-05-2010 02:11 PM

my adivce to you is to get a regular 222. the 222k does not come with the OTA module and they are 50 bucks. The only difference between the two is the 222K has the 21.0 learning remotes. And as a current customer there are no promos going on right now. I just tried to exchange my 2 receivers for a 722 and they told me i would have to buy the 722. and as long as you don't suscribe to HD you will not be charged for it, but its never a bad idea to watch your bill, never know what those CSR's are going to do.

**KAB** · 03-05-2010 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by jelle

. the 222k does not come with the OTA module and they are 50 bucks.

Nope. $29.99. It does pass OTA to TV2. 222 does not. And the learning remote is definitely worth having.
Yes, you will pay receiver fee, HD or no HD.

**Tech#344** · 03-05-2010 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by sailwind

TV2:
Upstairs, coax. Would like to watch dish + OTA local. It's okay if the OTA is not HD.

No a regular 222 would not satisfy your needs. On a regular 222 you can't use the OTA tuner on TV2

**Hemi 6.1** · 03-05-2010 02:31 PM

222k is Black and slightly smaller then the 222.

222 Dimensions : 16 W x 13 D x 3.5 H
Weight : 11 lbs.

222k Dimensions : 16 W x 12.5 D x 3.5 H
Weight : 8.5 lbs. (9 lbs with OTA Module)

**sailwind** · 03-05-2010 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Tech#344

No a regular 222 would not satisfy your needs. On a regular 222 you can't use the OTA tuner on TV2

This post seem to suggest that it can be done. Although I'm confused by what he means in doing a reverse splitter.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1672414-post6.html (ViP222 vs. ViP222k)

In my current setup I think it's using a modulator to control the TV channels upstairs.

**sailwind** · 03-05-2010 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by KAB

Nope. $29.99. It does pass OTA to TV2. 222 does not. And the learning remote is definitely worth having.
Yes, you will pay receiver fee, HD or no HD.

Ugh, I have to pay a receiver fee even if I have my own receiver? Yuck. Do I have to call dish to activate it?

What's so special about the learning remote?

**KAB** · 03-05-2010 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by sailwind

This post seem to suggest that it can be done. Although I'm confused by what he means in doing a reverse splitter.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/1672414-post6.html (ViP222 vs. ViP222k)

In my current setup I think it's using a modulator to control the TV channels upstairs.

That was about combining the antenna cable with the TV2 line. It would then need to be split out to go directly to TV (IF it had a second cable/antenna connection).

**sailwind** · 03-05-2010 02:43 PM

So that means it combines the OTA antenna coax with the TV2 out coax, then the upstairs TV uses its own HD tuner to interpret the local HD channels and watch dish TV2 on channel 60, is that right?

**Iceberg** · 03-05-2010 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by sailwind

Ugh, I have to pay a receiver fee even if I have my own receiver? Yuck. Do I have to call dish to activate it?

yes and yes

you have always had to pay a extra receiver fee regardless if owned or leased (past the 1st receiver)

You need to call Dish to activate it or you dont get any channels