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    Quote Originally Posted by j0nnyhb
    I'm trying to get a "wavier", but I'm not sure this will go through, the guy at Dish said it takes 30-45 days and they need to clear it. The guy didn't know what he was talking about, as I was asking him "who needs to approve it? The Chicago stations that I want to get (ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX)?" He said yes ... does that make sense? Also, he said I need to just keep checking my guide to see if all the sudden I get the channels ... if the wavier doesn't go through, they tell me nothing, no letter, email, nothing ... that kinda sucks. Does it really take that long? And who are they going to try and get permission from on my behalf? Thanks.
    The waivers go to your local affiliates, which in this case would be FOX 47 & NBC 10 (KTTC), KIMT (CBS3) and KAAL (ABC6)....but I wonder since you're close enough to Minneapolis if they need them from there too.
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    That is what I thought, why in the heck would they ever grant this waiver? Do they grant them for people that refuse to go with cable or antenna's? Seems like they wouldn't want to. Do these things generally get rejected or go though?

    FWIW, I'm still going to watch my local news with basic cable, but I want to record via my Dish DVR so I get digital quality vs crapy cable analog.

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    some affiliates grant waivers with no issues (especially if locals arent available on satellite)
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    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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    I hope they do ;o) ... thanks for all the information! Again, this forum is great.

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    glad to see your thinking bout changing service addy to msp, as i suggested earlier.
    hope all works out for you.

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    I've never heard of anyone getting a Rochester waiver granted. Olmsted country isn't in the Marketing area for MSP, so it up to the mood of the locals. I predict that you have a 1% chance of getting KTTC which owns ( FOX & NBC). Channel 6 might just because they know that they run on pea power and have a lousy signal into Rochester. If you do get denied, phone calls might work to the station managers stating that you promise to maintain basic cable.

    If you have a relative in Oronoco/elgin area, or someplace closer to MSP who has Direct TV or has no intention of going Dish, use them as the service location.

    I use the different service address legitimately as I give my mom Dish as a repeating Xmas present. Be sure to plug all of your dish receivers into the phone line to avoid problems with the Dish audit team (the Dish goons).

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0nnyhb
    ...FWIW, I'm still going to watch my local news with basic cable, but I want to record via my Dish DVR so I get digital quality vs crapy cable analog.
    That's what I had to do to keep some "nearby but not quite local" stations. I demoted my Comcast service to minimal basic "Lifeline" $10/month just to keep some stations I liked, and to keep public access and local government stations that Dish can't offer me. I use a Replay 2020 to catch all that, so in some ways it's better than getting it on Dish, it doesn't take up any room in the Dish-522's hard drive. The drawbacks are paying for two services and The Weather Channel does not have local forecasts on Dish. Oh well...


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    Quote Originally Posted by rlegan
    I predict that you have a 1% chance of getting KTTC which owns ( FOX & NBC).
    Didnt know these were both owned by Quincy..I thoiught Fox was owned by someone else

    If you have a relative in Oronoco/elgin area, or someplace closer to MSP who has Direct TV or has no intention of going Dish, use them as the service location.
    this is honestly the best option
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    Well I quess I was wrong. KXLT - 47 is owned by
    Sagamorehill Broadcasting.

    I made the assumption that it had been bought out when they merged their news organization with KTTC. Note that KTTC manages the KXLT website (bottom of the page).

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    (sorry, blasted spam control won't let me put a link in the article. add com with a . to make it a link).

    I really don't know what their financial arrangement is or who is minding the transmitter and selling the ads....

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    I know what you mean...In Duluth, the CBS & NBC have the same thing
    KDLH (CBS) is owned by Malara, KBJR (NBC) is Granite. KBJR does everything for KDLH including news and commercials.

    Its a loophole in the FCC rules. I dont know the exact rule, but for smaller areas its one owner can't own 2 of the big 4 (CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC) so they use this "agreement" as the loophole
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    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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