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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski
    Just sent a note and within 45 seconds of sending it I got this back...
    Same here Scott..very frustrating. I sent this message:

    "I’m aware that the Voom HD channels are being down-converted to 1280x1080i. As a long-time subscriber to the HD pack and recently Voom, I’d like to explain why this is not acceptable.



    High-Definition content should be exactly that—HIGH DEFINITION. As the customer, I am subscribing to HD programming and expect to get what I’m paying for--full resolution HD video, which is 1920x1080 and NOT 1280x1080i. I can see a difference in quality, and this down-conversion contradicts the statement that these channels are indeed High Definition.

    I’ve heard the argument that you try to find a balance between adding content vs using bandwidth to maintain quality. For the average consumer with SD and 27” TVs, this kind of technical compromise is likely not too noticeable or not a great concern—they just want more channels. However, This is NOT a valid argument in the case of HD because, simply put, the basic and primary expectation is to receive High Definition video.

    Look at it from the customer perspective. A typical SD customer would be enraged if you converted 80% of your channels to black-and-white just so you could save some bandwidth and add more programming, would they not? They will notice that change and it is unacceptable. HD customers expect HD video, not a down-converted compromise.

    Yes, we want more content, but If Dish Network is not interested in prioritizing its bandwidth to correctly display HD content, then it should not ADD additional HD channels until the bandwidth is available to offer it CORRECTLY at full resolution to the consumer.

    I do hope this message is being heard and understood. SD customers and HD customers are different and need to be treated as such. Otherwise, you will lose the HD viewers…and remember, there are more and more of ‘us’ every day.

    Thank you for your time."
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    I got the E-mail Reply Scott got Sunday, Got the first one SatinKzo today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfergie
    I got the E-mail Reply Scott got Sunday, Got the first one SatinKzo today...
    Man, I just replied to the second email saying that I notice no imporvment in PQ. The message came back undeliverable. I will try again later, but this does bode well.

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    Hey, one positive may come out of it, maybe you will be able to record more HD content on the DVR as it may be able to hold more content if it does not take up as much space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SatinKzo
    Man, I just replied to the second email saying that I notice no imporvment in PQ. The message came back undeliverable. I will try again later, but this does bode well.
    12/6/2005 @ 11:45 AM CST on my 30" LCD Lair of the White Worm on right now on CH9481 looks much sharper much clearer than it did yesterday.
    Can anyone else confirm an improvement ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer
    If they thought that then they would not have come out with the SuperDish as large as they are. I know that in my area the signal is just as bad on 129 as it is on 105. It is harder to get a line of sight at 129 than 105 since it points lower.
    You're forgetting the difference between BSS (DBS) and FSS. FSS 2 degree spacing requires the larger dish for tighter focus, and more gain due to the weaker signal.

    They make dshes as small as possible for WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JH1949
    12/6/2005 @ 11:45 AM CST on my 30" LCD Lair of the White Worm on right now on CH9481 looks much sharper much clearer than it did yesterday.
    Can anyone else confirm an improvement ?
    I'm at work, so no confirmations on anything until later. Maybe Hokie or Gary can post some numbers if they get a chance.

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    Because we have three threads going on this similar subject, I have taken the suggestion from a couple members to only have one thread open, so please discuss the HD-Lite issue on Dish HERE!

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    Can you please merge the other thread over as they're saying that Voom looks as good as before the HD lite conversion?

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    LoL I guess that would make that thread the most recent.

    That one has been reopened as the progress thread. The generally b**ching can still take place here

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