Dish messing with Voom, All are now HD-Lite 1280x1080i: Discuss this issue HERE!

[rdinkel]

Not gonna work. Right now you'll only get cbs-hd west on 148

You are probably right! But when they ask to turn on a particular channel, it is not identified by satellite location. So, perhaps having an approval for 9484 on the books will cause it to come alive as soon as it is officially active on 129?

[HokieEngineer]

Sorry my post was not clear as when I thought it was when I typed it at 3am I was trying to say CBS-E was duplicated on 61.5 for the time being, however it seems the west coast HD locals will move to 129 when they launch (maybe in the next month or so??). For that reason, I doubt they will remove CBS-W at 148, however the old CBS-E at 61.5 (that shares a TP with the demo channel) has no reason to exist once they launch the big4 HD locals. They might free up a TP there by removing the HD demo channel. Unless someone really likes that fish tank

[Tom Bombadil]

If the HD PPV channel is always around 12 mbs, then I am NEVER going to pop for one of those movies.

$6 for 2 hours of HD-lite???

No way!

[rdinkel]

Sorry my post was not clear as when I thought it was when I typed it at 3am I was trying to say CBS-E was duplicated on 61.5 for the time being, however it seems the west coast HD locals will move to 129 when they launch (maybe in the next month or so??). For that reason, I doubt they will remove CBS-W at 148, however the old CBS-E at 61.5 (that shares a TP with the demo channel) has no reason to exist once they launch the big4 HD locals. They might free up a TP there by removing the HD demo channel. Unless someone really likes that fish tank

Now I am getting confused. I think they will need to continue to support CBS-HD East on 61.5, because parts of the East Coast cannot see the 129 bird. However, I think they will move CBS-HD West off of 148 once enough folks in the West install Dish1000s so that they can see 129. Make sense??

[mdonnelly]

Now I am getting confused. I think they will need to continue to support CBS-HD East on 61.5, because parts of the East Coast cannot see the 129 bird. However, I think they will move CBS-HD West off of 148 once enough folks in the West install Dish1000s so that they can see 129. Make sense??

Yes. The only reason they might remove CBS-E from 61.5 is if they put it on 110/119.

[Gary Murrell]

If the HD PPV channel is always around 12 mbs, then I am NEVER going to pop for one of those movies.

$6 for 2 hours of HD-lite???

No way!

only on 110, not on 148, over 17 Mbps there

both are 1920x1080i and with movie content 12/13 Mbps does quite good with telecine flags

-Gary

[HokieEngineer]

Now I am getting confused. I think they will need to continue to support CBS-HD East on 61.5, because parts of the East Coast cannot see the 129 bird. However, I think they will move CBS-HD West off of 148 once enough folks in the West install Dish1000s so that they can see 129. Make sense??

Whoa whoa whoa. Sorry for confusing.

1. East coast HD locals are testing on 61.5. West coast HD locals are testing on 129. These will launch soon. The big four are up, ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX.

2. Dish has always had CBS-E HD and CBS-W HD. These have been up for many years at 61.5 and 148 respectively.

3. There is no need for the old CBS-E HD at 61.5 when the "new" east coast HD locals launch, since these are uplinked as TWO separate video feeds on the same satellite. Thus my reasoning for them to remove the OLD CBS-E, and possibly remove the HD demo channel to free up a TP at 61.5 for voom or something else.

4. Local HD channels will not appear at the 110 slot until after h.264 (mpeg4) and E10 launch.

Hope this clears it up

[HokieEngineer]

only on 110, not on 148, over 17 Mbps there
both are 1920x1080i and with movie content 12/13 Mbps does quite good with telecine flags
-Gary

Damn you Gary. Now I'm gonna have to go out into the freezing cold and setup my 30" to check out 148. At least I wont have to climb up a 25' tree haha. Got any pics of that install, sounds pretty cool .

[jmcgee_jr]

Wait a minute your telling me that if/when the HD locals come up for East Coast itll be on the 148 sat I just schedualed about 1 week ago for dish to come out and put up a 61.5 dish due to come out on the 21st and due. Theres no way in gods green earth Ill get 148 up in vermont its like a elevation of 2

OOPS wait maybe I miss read the quote
3. There is no need for the old CBS-E HD at 61.5 when the "new" east coast HD locals launch, since these are uplinked as TWO separate video feeds on the same satellite. Thus my reasoning for them to remove the OLD CBS-E, and possibly remove the HD demo channel to free up a TP at 61.5 for voom or something else.

I was assuming they were going to get rid of the HD feeds ont he 61.5 maybe thats not how it came out but thats how I read it

what channel is the HD Demo channel? Itson the 61.5 dish right? will I get that?

[HokieEngineer]

Wait a minute your telling me that if/when the HD locals come up for East Coast itll be on the 148 sat I just schedualed about 1 week ago for dish to come out and put up a 61.5 dish due to come out on the 21st and due. Theres no way in gods green earth Ill get 148 up in vermont its like a elevation of 2
OOPS wait maybe I miss read the quote
3. There is no need for the old CBS-E HD at 61.5 when the "new" east coast HD locals launch, since these are uplinked as TWO separate video feeds on the same satellite. Thus my reasoning for them to remove the OLD CBS-E, and possibly remove the HD demo channel to free up a TP at 61.5 for voom or something else.
I was assuming they were going to get rid of the HD feeds ont he 61.5 maybe thats not how it came out but thats how I read it
what channel is the HD Demo channel? Itson the 61.5 dish right? will I get that?

HD Demo channel is on 61.5 and 148. Everyone who has a dish pointed at one of those locations and a HD receiver can view this channel.

East Coast HD locals (from NYC), when launched, will come from 61.5.
West Coast HD locals (from LA), when launched, will come from 129.

Remember, in E*s mind, 129 is not available for subscribers north of Maryland on the East coast because of the low angle.