Dish messing with Voom, All are now HD-Lite 1280x1080i: Discuss this issue HERE!

**Drone35** · 12-14-2005 10:07 AM

I here ya Gary,kinda like here what I mean not what I say.lol!

**grb** · 12-14-2005 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by SatinKzo

Thanks for the update gary.
Ya know, I was looking at your page and I see that TNT-HD is still getting more kbps for audio then all the rest. I have never been able to find a definitive answer on this. Does anyone here know why yet?

That must be why TNT's sound is awesome!

The worst is ESPNHD. All I can ever get is 2-channel stereo. I end up switching to an alogue input rather than the 5.1 that is being received for this channel so I can at least get Dolby anaolgue.

BTW, I watched some of the Voom channels for a while last night (Monsters, Majestic) and I thought they had improved -- at least the sound was stable and the video was not breaking up. But by all reports, there have been no changes from 1280 x 1080i. Maybe the bitrate changed?

**rad** · 12-14-2005 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by grb

The worst is ESPNHD. All I can ever get is 2-channel stereo.

ESPN-HD doesn't do DD5.1. They're rumored to be making a change at some future date to DD5.1.

**nuts4scuba** · 12-14-2005 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by rad

ESPN-HD doesn't do DD5.1. They're rumored to be making a change at some future date to DD5.1.

Yeah. They do something like SRS surround. Only a few receivers decode that.

**SatinKzo** · 12-14-2005 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by grb

That must be why TNT's sound is awesome!
The worst is ESPNHD. All I can ever get is 2-channel stereo. I end up switching to an alogue input rather than the 5.1 that is being received for this channel so I can at least get Dolby anaolgue.
BTW, I watched some of the Voom channels for a while last night (Monsters, Majestic) and I thought they had improved -- at least the sound was stable and the video was not breaking up. But by all reports, there have been no changes from 1280 x 1080i. Maybe the bitrate changed?

You must have some magnificent hearing to hear the difference between 384kbps and 448kbps. I hear no difference in audio quality from tnt and tnt hd. Just get DD on the HD channel. Audio performance is more attibutable to the soundmix engineering then the bitrate alloted. I have many LD's that sound many times better than the DVD equivelent. I will say that more times then not, DTS sounds better than DD. Saving Private Ryan DTS audio is a big difference from the DD5.1 track.

As for PQ, I too thought things looks a little better last night on Monsters and Equator, but not back up to par with what I am used to seeing. (but then again, I sat in front of a 10 year old 20 inch all day monitoring processes at work). But at least the sound was consistent and no breakups like you mentioned.

**BrettTRay** · 12-14-2005 02:44 PM

I too prefer DTS audio over DD. I wonder why its not offered on some of the HD channels. It would be nice if they did. Kind of like how certain channels chose
720p instead of 1080i. They should have been able to chose DTS over DD if they wanted. Do you all ever think that in the future that they will ever go to 6.1 and eventually 7.1. I know that I've never seen 7.1 offered anywhere but I have seen 6.1 on a few DVD's like Gladiator.

**hdtvtechno** · 12-14-2005 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by nuts4scuba

Yeah. They do something like SRS surround. Only a few receivers decode that.

Circle Surround

http://www.srslabs.com/ss-csencodingtech921.asp

**SatinKzo** · 12-14-2005 02:53 PM

heh, Circle Surround. Sounds like a reverb nightmare.

Don't everyone forget SDDS from Sony, they have to have their own too.

**gutter** · 12-14-2005 03:20 PM

I for one think we owe Gary and big thanks for confirming with his equipment what we thought our eyes were telling us. Without his and others technical savy, I would have thought I was going blind or crazy or needing a new bulb. Again thanks Gary. You did a terrific service and I hope the results show it.