Dish messing with Voom, All are now HD-Lite 1280x1080i: Discuss this issue HERE!

[BFG]

Exactly. If they plan on increasing the PQ on Voom, why does it seem they're moving forward with their plan to have 3 1280 voom channels @ 15Mpbs on a TP, looks like they got it done...

-TP1-
Gallery
Rush
Majestic

-TP3-
Rave
Guy TV
HDN

-TP7-
Equator
Animania
Monsters

-TP9-
WorldSport
Treasure
Kung Fu



-TP15-
Ultra
Family
Gameplay

[BrettTRay]

jsb_hburg, lowering the bitrates

[GeorgeLV]

Exactly. If they plan on increasing the PQ on Voom, why does it seem they're moving forward with their plan to have 3 1280 voom channels @ 15Mpbs on a TP, looks like they got it done...

How much more evidence do we need for everyone to agree that this is a deliberate change that doesn't look to be going away?

Unless, of course, if the 5 new Voom channels actually are MPEG4 as charlie said. They you could have the Voom 10 at 1920x1080i at 17Mpbs or so and run the MPEG4 Vooms at 10Mpbs...

[BFG]

If that was the case, then we should expect them to shuffle it around so that there are 2 existing voom channels with 1 new mpeg4 voom channel on each TP

[jsb_hburg]

jsb_hburg, lowering the bitrates

But, but... full HD needs at least 15 Mbps!!

I read that D* tried full HD for HDNet a few months back with less than adequate bitrate and it looked bad.

Are we waiting for a change in modulation from 8PSK Turbo to 8PSK Hemi to get full HD with a good bitrate?

[jsb_hburg]

If that was the case, then we should expect them to shuffle it around so that there are 2 existing voom channels with 1 new mpeg4 voom channel on each TP

I found a recap you posted http://www.satelliteguys.us/showpost...4&postcount=22 (Charlie Chat Recap and Discussion) that Charlie said E* would add at least five MPEG4 channels. This opens up the possibility of some of the Voom10 like Monsters going MPEG4 to drive adoption of the MPEG4 boxes.

[HokieEngineer]

I don't know what Dish engineers are smoking, its got to be good, whatever it is. GalleryHD for some reason is still 1080i. Who knows why that one channel gets the special treatment.

Everything else is 1280i mpeg2. CBS is still 720p.

[HokieEngineer]

But, but... full HD needs at least 15 Mbps!!
I read that D* tried full HD for HDNet a few months back with less than adequate bitrate and it looked bad.
Are we waiting for a change in modulation from 8PSK Turbo to 8PSK Hemi to get full HD with a good bitrate?

An 8PSK transponder makes available around 38Mbit/s for the VIDEO streams (the rest is used up with administrative stuff and audio). Do the math and with 3 channels per, you're gonna get around 11-13Mbit/s per channel.

They are testing four h.264 channels on one 8psk transponder at 148W. Resolution of those channels is 1440x1080.

[GeorgeLV]

An 8PSK transponder makes available around 38Mbit/s for the VIDEO streams (the rest is used up with administrative stuff and audio). Do the math and with 3 channels per, you're gonna get around 11-13Mbit/s per channel.
They are testing four h.264 channels on one 8psk transponder at 148W. Resolution of those channels is 1440x1080.

I guess they're going to try to sqeeze each city's HD LiL onto one TP.

[Gary Murrell]

How many movie channels are there??

5??

Kung Fu
Monsters HD
GuyTV
Majestic
Family ??

Dish can do 3 True HD per transponder with "decent"(not ideal) results when using movie channels(putting 2 HD video and 1 Movie per Tp.), movie channels with Telecine flags can have wonderful results with 12/13 Mbps bitrate

Showtime and HBO on 110 are averaging 11/12 Mbps and often much less

We need 2 True HD per transponder though

Hokie the GalleryHD channel is 1280x1080i HD-Lite, my eyes tell me this by viewing it, they left the header at 1920x1080i

-Gary