Dish messing with Voom, All are now HD-Lite 1280x1080i: Discuss this issue HERE!

**Gary Murrell** · 12-03-2005 09:44 PM

Guytv was/is uneffected, it has always been the way it is at this very moment

-Gary

**dfergie** · 12-03-2005 09:49 PM

Looked like crap this evening, maybe its mental...

**Gary Murrell** · 12-03-2005 10:02 PM

Guytv and Majestic bitrates are absolutely laughable, they are DVD bitrate at this moment

-Gary

**Stargazer** · 12-03-2005 10:24 PM

Would this be called ED (Enhanced Definition) or is that between SD and HD lower than the HD-Lite resolution? So all of DirecTv's HD channels even in their local markets are 1280x1080i? Perhaps Dish Network realized that they had to go the HD-Lite/ED route in order to compete with DirecTv to get more channels up and going. They probably figure that if they can get away with this along with the turbo and MPEG-4 they could maximize the compression for more space. They know that they can always improve the resolution in the future. I do not see this any different than them compressing the current SD channels we see today which reduces the picture quality.

**BrettTRay** · 12-03-2005 10:42 PM

I'll drop the HD pack and voom if they start doing this with there HD channels. At least I will get to see the locals in TRUE HD, the way they were meant to be seen.

**GeorgeLV** · 12-03-2005 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stargazer

Would this be called ED (Enhanced Definition) or is that between SD and HD lower than the HD-Lite resolution? So all of DirecTv's HD channels even in their local markets are 1280x1080i? Perhaps Dish Network realized that they had to go the HD-Lite/ED route in order to compete with DirecTv to get more channels up and going. They probably figure that if they can get away with this along with the turbo and MPEG-4 they could maximize the compression for more space. They know that they can always improve the resolution in the future. I do not see this any different than them compressing the current SD channels we see today which reduces the picture quality.

No. ED is generally considered 480p. 1280x1080i is still HD. AFAIK, it is not public information what resolution/bitrate DirecTV is tranmitting their MPEG4 HD locals at.

**Drone35** · 12-03-2005 11:11 PM

I've looked at all the Voom and HD Net channels and the Voom still look pretty good to me here in TX. Maybe its not going to be as bad as we thought, may be more of a mental thing, just a thought! If no one had told us about this maybe we might not even noticed!

**Gary Murrell** · 12-03-2005 11:18 PM

I noticed and that is what made me go and check the stats, HD-Lite is spottable in 2 seconds when one is used to true HD

-Gary

**BrettTRay** · 12-04-2005 12:09 AM

yea, Equator looks terrible. Too grainy

**BrianMis** · 12-04-2005 09:24 AM

I looked at Equator on my 26" HDTV in my bedroom last night after reading this thread, didn't notice any real change it still looked great. Then I went into the living room and turned on the 61" HDTV and noticed a huge difference. That's when I wrote to E*.