Dish messing with Voom, All are now HD-Lite 1280x1080i: Discuss this issue HERE!

[vurbano]

No. ED is generally considered 480p. 1280x1080i is still HD. AFAIK, it is not public information what resolution/bitrate DirecTV is tranmitting their MPEG4 HD locals at.

No HD is 1920x1080i, 1920x 1080p or 1280 x 720p thats it. Laugh at calling it HDlite but it is. It has a definiton at AVS forum and the term has been used by Marc Cuban. I dont see how much more official the term needs to get myself.

[riffjim4069]

Some people have called it bit stealing, but I call it "Bit Squealing" because it is we, the poor costumers, who are being bent over and treated like Ned Beatty in the movie Deliverance.


Bit Squealing

[FreddyvsJasonvsAsh]

I called Dish and complained about it but they said they knew nothing about it. I told them many would drop them if it stayed this way

[Stargazer]

I see this as no different than reducing the quality of their SD stations. Are the HD feed still a bit better than the SD feeds? They just dont have enough bandwidth to add what they want at the resolution that they had. I guess we should either get used to what we have available to us or switch providers. This is not really a surprise to me in what they are doing. Hopefully the digital HD feeds will come in better than the analog feeds around here.

[gutter]

I sent a message like many did to quality control and got the standard reply. However, I also asked for a receipt to see if my message was read. I got 3 replies that my message was deleted and never read. A lot of good that does.

[BrianMis]

That account is probably on a auto responder, their probably getting the messages and deleting them. They don't care. I'm hoping that this is only short term.

[Gary Murrell]

I have a update for you guys, dish is still messing with stuff as we speak

I think Sean is exactly right of what he has been hearing about Voom

All Voom now have a Video Bitrate of almost 15 Mbps

Yesterday Majestic and GuyTV were around 10 Mbps video, they are now 14.65 Mbps, same for Rave and HDNews

The high bitrate guys of Equator and Monsters, have had their bitrates lowered to 14.48 Mbps also

we are seeing exactly what Sean said over on the Voom forum:

"all 21 Voom to be 1280x1080i with 15 Mbps video"

Believe me folks this is the way our Voom are going to be now, everything has been set into motion

and on that note this is where I decide in the very near future to dump Dish HD and my 942/6000

only time is keeping the entire HD pak from being done the same way

-Gary

[Stargazer]

I have to agree with Gary Murrell on this being the way things will be for now on (or at least for a while) and that things have been set into motion. If someone asks a question about it they will say that they do not have enough room on their satellites that it was either this or have less content. Most people would look more at content than quality. That is the problem. They figure the sooner they do it the better because it will be fewer people to complain before it goes mainstream.

[BFG]

They will probably be moving 2 of those 11 channels to join monsters, and animania transponders, since 21 channels fits evenly on 3 channels per TP. And the reason they lowered to 1280, because voom/dish thinks you cant have 3 channels of 1920x1800i working correctly on the 6000, I said this earlier but nobody made a comment on it

[rad]

Most people would look more at content than quality. That is the problem. They figure the sooner they do it the better because it will be fewer people to complain before it goes mainstream.

That's the way it's been for years, if it wasn't we wouldn't have the SD channels compressed to the levels that they are today. E*/D* saw their numbers grow no matter what they did to SD picture quality so why would anyone think that when push came to shove that they wouldn't do the same thing with HD streams?