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    Angry In Alaska W/2 dishes PVR 721, looking for 110 & 119

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    I've had Dish network for over 10 years with just a 1 meter dish and dual LNB. I was informed that my old receiver was going to be phased out so I ordered a PVR 721. I have it hooked to the same old 1 meter dish aimed at 119 West with 83% on a clear day. I then found out I was missing several channels that are on the 110 satellite and was told by DISH that I needed another 1 meter dish with an old dual LNB and two SW21 switches. Well I got the dish, LNB, switches and mounted the new dish about 15 feet from the one that has 119. I've combined the 2 dishes through the 2 SW21's and the 2 leads from the SW21’s to my 721. I matched the new dish to the same Azimuth and elevation as the 119 and started shifting the dish to the East slightly with my trusty Accutrack tuner and found several strong signals near the 119 west. When I go to the POINT DISH signal on my 721 and punch in DISH 300 and satellite 110 it always says "wrong satellite" and shows the 119 signal strength in red. Each time I've found a new strong signal with my handheld Accutrack tuner outside I run "Check Switch" and it shows only 119. I got desperate and started looking all over the sky for hours and did find 148 west with a very strong signal but no new channels. What am I doing wrong why can't I find that damn 110? Is it to low on the horizon, I didn't think 2 degrees would make a big difference? I have a straight open shot with no trees. Help

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    Quote Originally Posted by onerka
    I matched the new dish to the same Azimuth and elevation as the 119
    That is your problem there. The 119w and 110w don't share the same Elevation and or azimuth pal.

    The Elevation difference in Alaska from 119w to 110w is approx 3.1. Which means that if you are let's say in Anchorage the elevation/azimuth would be as follows:

    ►119w
    Elevation 16.1
    Azimuth 145.7

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    Elevation 13.2
    Azimuth 136.3

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    Yes I know their not the same, I just used 119 as a starting point it being Azimuth 135 and Elevation 23 and moving the dish 10 degrees East to 125 and an elevation of 21. There seems to be 3 signals right in that area but none show up on my PVR 721.....Thanks

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    onerka

    dont use the switches right away

    Hook the lines from the 119 dish to the 110 dish so you can aim it. Once its aimed, then hook up the SW21 switches and run check switch.

    I have a feeling right now you didnt run a check switch so all its going to pick up is 119....remove switches when aiming (makes it MUCH easier)
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    If your looking at the 119 you should go to the left 2 - 4 degrea's and up about 4 degreas of elevation and should be able to hot the 110. This is what I do when I have to do a split dish installation like you have and it always works though the degrea's most likely will be less for your location.

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    He's in Alaska where his true south is like 148 so 110 will be lower than 119
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    ah thats right so it will still be left but down

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    Are you sure that a 1 meter dish is big enough? Here in Soldotna I use a 6' dish to receive the 110 sat.

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    Yes I think a 1 meters OK I live just north of Ketchikan. Does the 110 satellite generally have less of a signal then the 119 here in Alaska? Which Spot Beam on 110 is the best to use for tuning? Thanks for the speedy replies!!!! I'll try icebergs suggestion without the switches when the torrential downpour stops.

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    normally we say 11 or 12

    8 has the Fiarbanks/ Juneau locals but you arent suppose to aim at a spoptbeam unless thats really all you need

    I cant answer the strength question because I'm not in Alaska
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