EXCLUSIVE: Dish Vip 622 & Vip 222 Specs

**BobaBird** · 12-14-2005 04:20 AM

CJPC, the receivers you list as "no smart card" do in fact have an actual card in the slot.

I've thought the numbering to be series, number of tuners, number of outputs.

The series desgnation seems completely broken, with a 2 having more features than a 3 or 4, and the 6 replacing the 9 unless the 9 line is to be retired or maybe replaced with a dual OTA and dual HD out version ::drool:: .

For tuners, 0 or 1 = 1
The 942 with 2 sat tuners (3 with OTA) is the exception, and should have been called "922."

For number of outputs, 1 = Single mode only, 2 = Dual mode
The 508, 510 (both Single) and 625 (Dual) break the pattern, but all are based on the 501 and 522 which fit.

It's nice that the numbering matches the features but as we can see by the exceptions, variations require new model numbers which are not as informative.

**SummitAdvantageRetailer** · 12-14-2005 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by ocnier

Something strange about the unit I still don't get is why did they still only include one OTA HD tuner?.... very bizarre from a product planning standpoint.

It's not that bizzarre because they're assuming that you're going to install this receiver to ONE HDTV and ONE SDTV. I think only the HD TiVo has 2 OTA tuners. The 942 also has only ONE OTA tuner. I guess you may want 2 OTA tuners to record one while watching another but DISH doesn't think that's necessary as none of their HD DVR's have that feature.

**CJPC** · 12-14-2005 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by BobaBird

CJPC, the receivers you list as "no smart card" do in fact have an actual card in the slot.
It's nice that the numbering matches the features but as we can see by the exceptions, variations require new model numbers which are not as informative.

Indeed, seems there isnt a pattern that fits w/o exceptions! BTW I was talking about an embeded smart card (as in no plastic card, but its inside the box on a chip)

**DishSatUser** · 12-14-2005 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by BobMurdoch

You could slap a $40 hard drive in the old dishplayer and limp along until you are ready to switch, if HDD failure was the cause. The 7100/7200 were popular since you could swap hard drives easily.... they phone home and rebuild the software (I never did it, but there is a how to located here.....)

http://www.thetechguide.com/howto/dishplayer.html

Yep, I know about the HD swapping (done several over the years), but it's something else. Wont even POST (thats turn on) regardless of the drive installed. So something else let out the magic smoke.

Thanks for the suggestion though! It was buggy and it some times drove me nuts, but I loved the old Dishplayer 7100/7200 interface. Ah well.

**BobaBird** · 12-14-2005 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

In addition Dish will be releasing the ViP 322 which is a dual tuner NON DVR receiver.

It is MPEG 2/4 SD / HD (Tuner 2 is only 480i)

Stargazer already asked but I think the question got lost. Does this really mean Tuner 2 will not get satellite HD channels, or is it supposed to say TV2 output is 480i only (HD downconverted like the 942 does)?

**Airblair** · 12-14-2005 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

The specs I have list 180 hours of SD and 25 Hours of HD which does not seem correct to me.

Originally Posted by who_the

Maybe the extra HD space is for PPV or "on-demand" content Dish wants to offload to the players...

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

Thats what I was thinking but I did not want to say it.

Anyone else getting irked that with all of E*'s recent advances in video compression technology, with all the new programming and the new satellites coming online, the one feature that hasn't moved forward is the amount of recording time?

I find myself constantly battling the surging amounts of HD I have recorded on my 921; with my new OTA antenna and all the new channels coming online (that hopefully I'll get to watch without having to wait for an upgrade

) there will only be more and more stuff to record.

Dagnabbit, the DVR was supposed to give us flexibility with our TV viewing--how can it do that if the missus and I have to watch 3 hours of TV every night just so there's space for the 3 hours of TV we want to record the next night?

**BrettTRay** · 12-14-2005 01:59 PM

They need to release a software update that will activate the usb port so that it will accept a external hard drive. I just don't see why they haven't yet. It doesn't make any sense.

**LER** · 12-14-2005 02:13 PM

read that as RIAA/MPAA meddling, BrettTRay.

**BrettTRay** · 12-14-2005 02:18 PM

What is RIAA/MPAA? Sorry I don't understand.

**LER** · 12-14-2005 02:21 PM

RIAA: Recording Industry Association of America
MPAA: Motion Picture Association of America

both of which have "intellectual property rights" issues.

I suspect that may be the hold up.