Dish 411's Now Available

[navychop]

Isn't the "2 day" (44 hr?) sent from one satellite, and the 9 day, from the other- 110 vs 119?

[K9SAT]

yes the 10 day is from 110 and the 2 day is avabile from any location with the execption of 110

[dodge]

If you want a free HDTV IRD Get it from Directv now, but theres a catch
You have a 2 year contract to deal with!!! Not my cup of tea, minimum programming agreements etc!!! A lot can happen in 2 years!!!

With Dish you pay the 300 whatever bucks, subscribe to whatever you want maybe just locals and no other programming, you own the box cancel at any time and ReEbay the box and get like 50-75% of the initial cost back. There is no reason right now today dec 17th to get the 411 over the 811.

Dish will probably be giving the 411 away come the 1st of the year if your locals, the top three dma will be in hd. I got my 811 for $50 bucks including the install, but I had a 1 year contract to stay with dish because , and I am happy with them except for the loss of bloomberg.

Just my $0.02

[OoTLink]

Why in the world is Dish Network getting $ 369 for a new receiver when DirecTV is getting $ 199 for new MPEG4 receivers plus they give you a $ 200 rebate on the first receiver. E* has to be out of their mind. If I had to pay $ 369 just to get their new channels I would just go to DirecTV get the first receiver free, and pay only $ 199 for a second receiver. Believe me, at some point DirecTV will add more national HD channels, too.
In my situation I lease my two 811's. If they do not have some kind of free or near free upgrade I will pack my Dish bags and take the DirecTV deal. I will not pay Charlie's extortion to get his new channels. By putting the new channels in MPEG4 it will be pure extortion to get more out of the customers through equipment costs. They will either have a free upgrade, or I would advise everyone to take advantage of the DirecTV offer. They will offer 150 nationals (obviously if available) by 2007. This is just Charlie trying to squeeze more money out of us.

Dish network doesn't squeeze you for a 2 year contract (if that's right? I know it's 1 year at the least) every time you add a receiver. In fact, if you buy them (even if you lease them) you don't get a contract at all.

[Indy]

There is no reason right now today dec 17th to get the 411 over the 811.

One thing that has been mentioned only once in this thread. No UHF remote capability on the 411. Why have a 75ohm RF output on the box in the first place? That is why the RF is there so you can watch TV in another room if you like on a regular TV and still change channels. I use my HD receivers in the rooms where I have a HD display but also RF the signal to non HD displays in other rooms and control the channels with the UHF remote.

If you are not looking for additional channels only available in Mpeg4, the 411 looks to be a step backward in technology compared to the 811.

[rocatman]

One thing that has been mentioned only once in this thread. No UHF remote capability on the 411. Why have a 75ohm RF output on the box in the first place? That is why the RF is there so you can watch TV in another room if you like on a regular TV and still change channels. I use my HD receivers in the rooms where I have a HD display but also RF the signal to non HD displays in other rooms and control the channels with the UHF remote.
If you are not looking for additional channels only available in Mpeg4, the 411 looks to be a step backward in technology compared to the 811.

I also use my UHF remote on my 811 extensively. I use the DVI, component, s-video and composite video outputs to feed 4 televisions/monitors and a DVD recorder. I have to believe they did this to cut costs but Dish may have designed it like the 311 that has a interface on the bottom of the unit for a UHF upgrade device.

[DWS44]

I also use my UHF remote on my 811 extensively. I use the DVI, component, s-video and composite video outputs to feed 4 televisions/monitors and a DVD recorder. I have to believe they did this to cut costs ...

...or to force folks doing what you are to buy more receivers to get to multiple TV.

(not that I personally have a problem with what you are doing...just tossing out a thought )

[Scott Greczkowski]

Remember there is a UHF upgrade kit available which works with the 411.

So that option is there if you want it.

[shanewalker]

Anyone know if the 411 will output anamorphic 480i on its S-Video like the 942 does over composite? I can't justify a getting a DVD recorder for my existing 2nd room 811 for specifically that limitation, but if a lease/upgrade is priced right and it has that functionality...

[Foxbat]

Scott, since you got to beta the 411, do you know if it mimics the 942's behavior of labelling OTA stations that don't get Dish EPG data as "NR/AO" instead of no rating or "NR"? That's one of my biggest gripes about the 942.