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    Dish Granted Permission for 86.5 slot

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    ECHOSTAR SATELLITE L.L.C. Granted EchoStar Satellite L.L.C. authority to construct a new Direct Broadcast Satellite service satellite, EchoStar-86.5W, to be located at the 86.5 Degrees W.L. orbital location. Action by: Acting Chief, International Bureau. Adopted: 11/29/2006 by O&A. (DA No. 06-2440). IB
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    About 6 months ago, I predicted that E* would announce, in about 6 months, yet another satellite location. Probably around the 83 to 92 locations.

    Of course my prediction was tongue-in-cheek (although based on history) and was meant to illustrate that E* never stops making it difficult for people to get their service. That just when you think you have your dishes & switches in order, they will come along and change something. At that time it was the 118.7 location. Not too long before then it was 129.

    86.5 is a good location for a DBS satellite. I always thought VOOM would have been much better served to be somewhere in that area instead of 61.5.

    But E*'s satellite strategy, in terms of delivering a mass market service, is very confusing.

    Let's see now, they now have birds or leased transponders at:

    61.5
    86.5
    105
    110
    118.7
    119
    121
    129
    148

    What will be next? 74? 125? 109.7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    About 6 months ago, I predicted that E* would announce, in about 6 months, yet another satellite location. Probably around the 83 to 92 locations.

    Of course my prediction was tongue-in-cheek (although based on history) and was meant to illustrate that E* never stops making it difficult for people to get their service. That just when you think you have your dishes & switches in order, they will come along and change something. At that time it was the 118.7 location. Not too long before then it was 129.

    86.5 is a good location for a DBS satellite. I always thought VOOM would have been much better served to be somewhere in that area instead of 61.5.

    But E*'s satellite strategy, in terms of delivering a mass market service, is very confusing.

    Let's see now, they now have birds or leased transponders at:

    61.5
    86.5
    105
    110
    118.7
    119
    121
    129
    148

    What will be next? 74? 125? 109.7?
    I would rather have Dish get and much capacity as they can, and require a 2nd dish for niche services than not to be able to offer niche services because of lack of bandwidth.

    There are people who want international channels, there are people that want more HD services. Both are niche services.

    HD requires lots of bandwidth. You can only cram 3 HD channels on a TP, while on that same TP you would be able to get 10 SD channels comfortabally.

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    The FCC also granted permission for a Netherlands based company, Spectrum Five, to construct, launch and operate two dbs satellites at 114.5 degrees west. Perhaps there will be some more competition for Dish Network and Directv.


    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-06-2439A1.pdf





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    Oh my, a tweener halfway between The Nimiqs.

    Ahaa, Reverse Polarity.

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    So what are they going to use this slot for? It seems like they would have to either use a large dish (like a SupeDish) in order to receive 110 and 119 as well from the same satellite dish or more likely a seperate satellite dish to pickup from 86.5

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    What ever happened to the service that SES Americom was going to offer at 105.5? Weren't they supposed to offer a service to compete with Dish and Direct (a la carte offerings)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer View Post
    What ever happened to the service that SES Americom was going to offer at 105.5? Weren't they supposed to offer a service to compete with Dish and Direct (a la carte offerings)?
    The FCC found their application to be defective and they need to resubmit it.

    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-06-2438A1.pdf





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    Quote Originally Posted by photoman76 View Post
    The FCC also granted permission for a Netherlands based company, Spectrum Five, to construct, launch and operate two dbs satellites at 114.5 degrees west. Perhaps there will be some more competition for Dish Network and Directv.


    http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-06-2439A1.pdf


    It was long awaiting hot spot for E* : "During the period from June 5 through June 9, 2003, EchoStar Satellite Corporation (EchoStar) filed applications to construct, launch, and operate DBS space stations at the 86.5º W.L., 96.5º W.L., 114.5º W.L., and 123.5º W.L. orbital locations"
    Now they will pissed off.


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    Given a choice of 86.5 or 114.5, you'd think E* would have preferred 114.5 (not to imply they had a choice)

    I don't know which way E* was leaning.

    Likewise 123.5 and 96.5 would be better than 86.5 too, as far as offering a one-dish solution.

    114.5 would have been excellent to hit the entire USA and offer a very simple, compact one-dish solution for 3 birds. And it would have solved line-of-sight issues for everyone who can now get 110/119.

    I wonder if E* has any opportunity to buy out the other company's rights to 114.5. Perhaps offer them a chunk of cash along with the 86.5 slot.

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