Loss of distants increase hack market?

**SatinKzo** · 12-01-2006 10:05 AM

Does anyone here think that the hack market will benefit from the loss of distants on dish?

**Dish-Direc** · 12-01-2006 10:09 AM

If Dish could shut down the Pirate Market, Dish and its retailers would benefit. Thats about all we should say about it here.

**SatinKzo** · 12-01-2006 10:11 AM

Yeah, I realize that dish-direc. I am just asking if people here think that people who had distants might start exploring other methods to get the distants again. I'm not saying I advocate it and I don't think I am going to give anyone any ideas. Obviously if any of the mods think this is not a good idea for a poll, then they can delete it. I won't have any hard feelings.

**tdti1** · 12-01-2006 10:12 AM

The hack market is so big already, and this would probably just add some more to the massive amount, does anyone bring this fact to the courts, channels should pull there service from Dish if they don't fix there security issues, ppv and stuff like that should not be on Dish.

**Dish-Direc** · 12-01-2006 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by tdti1

Channels should pull there service from Dish if they don't fix there security issues, ppv and stuff like that should not be on Dish.

I totally agree with this.

**SatinKzo** · 12-01-2006 01:24 PM

What is the current estimated number of non-subscribing viewers?

BTW, I did vist a site that caters to this market today, guess what the big talk is all about and guess how many posts are about how to start up and get a receiver going. Seems like it is not taking people long to become thieves.

laff, I bet most of them morally justify it by saying "Well I still have a subscription, I just want my distants back."

**Stargazer** · 12-01-2006 02:09 PM

I believe that it would increase the number of hackers because they cannot legally subscribe to those stations so they would have to go this route to get the networks. Having an NPS solution would cut down on hacking. So the cost to dish would be more than what some may realize if fewer people can get the networks without the NPS solution.

**tdti1** · 12-01-2006 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by SatinKzo

What is the current estimated number of non-subscribing viewers?

Probably more than there are legal subs

ever go to one of there forums? they have like 10x the number of members than any legal satellite forum.

**Chris Walker** · 12-01-2006 02:38 PM

Hackers will probably be up the creek too if Dish moves the NY/LA distants to spotbeams. There's no reason for them to be on the main satellite anymore either.

**Hall** · 12-01-2006 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by tdti1

Probably more than there are legal subs

ever go to one of there forums? they have like 10x the number of members than any legal satellite forum.

More than legal subs ?? No way.... It's just that those groups are more "active" in their "hobby". I mean, you think this site has a lot of members ?? Assuming everyone here was a Dish customer, which isn't the case, it's only a 1/2 percent of Dish's total customers. This site is made up of Dish, Directv, FTA, cable, OTA, etc, etc users. And the 60,000+ members is not active members either. If someone signed up years ago and never visited again, they're still counted...