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    Quote Originally Posted by brad1138
    The problem is HD encoders for coax output are only used commercially, they run like a 1/2 million or so.
    It's amazing so many people were able to afford the add-on modulator for the 5000.

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    Good idea ! Can we reuse it ? Shove it into a box and connect to USB port ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claude Greiner View Post
    This is just great Now im going to have customers asking about the 722 on the Dishstore, and not a peep from Dish about availability
    For you, I see opportrunity..Not a problem..I hope you sell them like water to a desert traveler...

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    Problems with 622 .....

    No External Hard Drive Support
    No HD Output on TV2

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    The storage issue for HD would be better addressed if more HD channels were moved to the new MPEG4 encoding. Those programs consume far less space on the drive than the MPEG2 or older MPEG4 HD channels. Even on the 622, you can record somewhere in the neighborhood of 70-80 hours of HD on the channels using the new encoding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    The storage issue for HD would be better addressed if more HD channels were moved to the new MPEG4 encoding. Those programs consume far less space on the drive than the MPEG2 or older MPEG4 HD channels. Even on the 622, you can record somewhere in the neighborhood of 70-80 hours of HD on the channels using the new encoding.
    Good suggestion Tom, but are there any HD channels left other than Voom that can go Mpeg4?? As of right now ESPNHD, DiscoveryHD, TNTHD, HDNet and HDNet movies cannot because of existing Mpeg2 only receivers.

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    So give existing MPEG2-only HD receiver owners a great trade-up deal, announce a deadline for cutting off MPEG-2 and go for it.

    You could still even leave the grandfathered contracts in place, like the old HD Pack.

    The number of those old receivers still in use aren't that high. It isn't like trying to get rid of MPEG2 SD receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    So give existing MPEG2-only HD receiver owners a great trade-up deal, announce a deadline for cutting off MPEG-2 and go for it.

    You could still even leave the grandfathered contracts in place, like the old HD Pack.

    The number of those old receivers still in use aren't that high. It isn't like trying to get rid of MPEG2 SD receivers.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski View Post
    The 622 and 722 are the same receivers. (well almost)

    Well that about sums it up. Since it does have some difference in functionality and a different case (if only in terms of color) they can give it a new model number if they want. But it is even less difference than betweena Chevy and a pontiac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil View Post
    The number of those old receivers still in use aren't that high. It isn't like trying to get rid of MPEG2 SD receivers.

    In some ways it sounds like the video game console market. Except in this case its everyone that has the *older* models. Not just a few. Want to play the new games? They are not backwards compatible so you have to spend $500 to get new one. Sorry, no upgrade deals.

    But then... I cant imagine people waiting in line for days to get a new receiver

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