Team Summit General Assembly Notes

**Jason Whiddon** · 05-06-2007 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by gbjbany

I would agree with Tom, maybe i missed all the good news, but was a bit disappointed. The new satellites I dont think will affect me much, but of course I could be wrong.

Other than adding ability to give us as much HD as is out there, there new sats really wont offer anything

**juan** · 05-06-2007 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Other than adding ability to give us as much HD as is out there, there new sats really wont offer anything

They will offer the customers a choice between a small 18 inch dish on their roof (e*) or a mamoth almost 1 meter dish (d*) The WAF (wife acceptance factor) comes into play with decisions like these

**RJohn** · 05-06-2007 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Poke

Well some of that would fall in getting all the contracts done in some of those local markets. Some local markets might be quicker than others on getting things done to get their HD channels setup for Dish than others. So really that depends on both parties getting things done to offer the HD feed of the local market. So it might not always be Dish or Direct fault on how fast things get done. It would be nice if all they had to do was to just turn things on when its available but does not always work that way. Either way I think Direct and Dish do what they can when they can other times its out of their control.

If they are having contract issues with HD locals, then tell us so we the customer can put some pressure on the local stations.

If we were informed about why they didn't get last years HD local list done, it sure would temper any hard feelings customers might have.

Direct TV has already added at least one city, that I know of, that was on the 2006 Dish List.

**ScoBuck** · 05-06-2007 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by RJohn

If they are having contract issues with HD locals, then tell us so we the customer can put some pressure on the local stations.

If we were informed about why they didn't get last years HD local list done, it sure would temper any hard feelings customers might have.

Direct TV has already added at least one city, that I know of, that was on the 2006 Dish List.

Its MORE than 1, lots MORE.

**Smith, P.** · 05-06-2007 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by rockymtnhigh

I disagree. PQ has already improved on UHD since going from MPEG2 to MPEG4.

For me it looks like feeding toddler by 1% milk, then giving 2% kind and get credits for be a good mother.

Breast feeding is the point !

**MikeD-C05** · 05-06-2007 06:15 PM

I hope that the pq will definately improve on sd channels to dvd quality. I also hope that the sd locals will improve also since they will be moving those to the new sat as well. As to hd channels, I remember talking to someone at Dish last year who called me to ask me if I had any questions about hd . She told me that Dish wants to be the first company to broadcast in 1080p. NOw I don't know if that means that a new receiver will come out and it will have a setting for 1080p for all those who have those new 1080p tvs, or if they really want to broadcast in 1080p. I would love to see a return of all hd to 1920 x 1080i like it is supposed to- except the 720p channels.

The other question I had was Charlie saying that all this can be received by a small 18 " dish with ONE Coax running into your house. Now is he saying one coax for the whole house and from there you can run more lines to other receivers ? OR is he saying that one coax can be split like today into two runs with the dpp seperator? IT seems to me that a dish 500 would prevent rain fade better than a dish 300 dish. OF course I don't even know if they are using lnbs for dbs as they are today or some new fangled ones like the dish 500plus dish does for 118 sat. I sure wish some of this could be nailed down for my curiosity anyway.

**mdonnelly** · 05-06-2007 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by MikeD-C05

... I sure wish some of this could be nailed down for my curiosity anyway.

Patience, Grasshopper.

**kstuart** · 05-06-2007 09:45 PM

This "97" has to be a typo or other miscommunication. There is no slot in the sky with more channels currently than 97. Certainly not enough room for 1000's of E* channels to be added.

It is also not licensed for DBS, which is necessary due to the 18-inch dish part of the statement.

**Tom Bombadil** · 05-06-2007 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Other than adding ability to give us as much HD as is out there, there new sats really wont offer anything

We don't know this for sure.

It sounds like E* is going to run two parallel DBS systems ... one in MPEG2 and one in MPEG4. E* will eat up many of the new transponders with duplicate SD, locals, and international channels. They could eat up all of the rest with HD LiLs, of which there are hundreds upon hundreds of them.

As Charlie didn't mention using the new birds for new national HD channels, that may be a low priority for them. If so, then we end up with 61.5 & 129 for most of our HD, which is where we are now.

One would think that E* could set aside a transponder or two on the new birds for new national HD, even two would enable them to carry at least 12 more HD channels.

Now, if E* eventually ditches the MPEG2 system, there will be more transponders available than anyone would what to do with. But that might not happen for years. Dish would have to replace a lot of receivers to do this. A first step would be to do it on HD first, where there are much fewer non-MPEG4 receivers installed. Doing this would enable E* to use MPEG4 on all of their 61.5 & 129 transponders, which would increase HD capacity.

**Scott Greczkowski** · 05-07-2007 01:14 AM

Using MPEG4 for everything will allow them to carry everything they currently offer on ALL of their satellites using just two satellites and having enough room for another 400 or so SD channels, and another 150 HD channels.

I hear that the bandwidth savings on the SD channels is amazing, plus the PQ is as good or better then what we have now.

To me this is a great thing and I cant wait to see it. Although I am sure it could be up to a year before we fully see it in all its glory. I never count on Dish Network to do anything on time.