Charlie Chat ReCap June 11th, 2007

**JAG72** · 06-11-2007 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by jcrash

100 Local cities in 2007? I don't see how that is possible unless the satellites are online in 2007, and unless I am mistaken, I thought that wasn't until 2008.

Does this mean all the cities listed in this post : LINK would be available? Plus a lot more, right?

Looking for Tulsa, and somehow, I just don't have faith.

The key word is CAPACITY.

**Jason Whiddon** · 06-11-2007 11:09 PM

Yepp, the good ol "C" word. Same word the D* subs keep overlooking.

**zbender** · 06-11-2007 11:40 PM

RE: Capacity word

the postings in this thread regarding capacity are true but D* has the one up on E* in the carriage agreement category. E* seems to always have lagged in getting the agreements or forking up the $$$ (i.e. MLB deal) to get the deals done. E* has more capacity right now for addtl HD stations but hasn't paid the $$ to get the agreements right?

**guerra** · 06-12-2007 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by webbydude

Yep...they sure did.

Ugh. Waited/held-out too long to upgrade my 625 to a 622, huh

ahhh man, that sucks! Yeah, I was actually thinking of waiting some more myself, but because I was coming back to SF for summer school, I decided to act on it now and get it over with. Good thing I did.

**kstuart** · 06-12-2007 12:35 AM

Note that this is a summary - a very good summary - but Charlie said a lot more about MLB-EI, External USB Drives, and HD quality and capacity than is listed above. Nothing that one has not read on SatelliteGuys before, but it included some confirmations of what we have read.

**kstuart** · 06-12-2007 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by guerra

Did they increase the price of the 622 from $149 to $199? That's so weird, because I ended up paying $149 for the 622 last week..

I don't think so.

There was always a "sliding scale" for Dishin It Up to a 622, from $149 to $199, depending on how long you have been with Dish and how much you spend.

If you have been with them for a number of years, or you subscribe to AT250 and Premiums, you should be able to get your CS phone rep to give you the $149 price.

It would make sense that the publicized price is "$199", so that recent subscribers or AT100 subscribers don't say "but the price on the Chat was less!".

**webbydude** · 06-12-2007 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by kstuart

I don't think so.

There was always a "sliding scale" for Dishin It Up to a 622, from $149 to $199, depending on how long you have been with Dish and how much you spend.

If you have been with them for a number of years, or you subscribe to AT250 and Premiums, you should be able to get your CS phone rep to give you the $149 price.

It would make sense that the publicized price is "$199", so that recent subscribers or AT100 subscribers don't say "but the price on the Chat was less!".

And yet another reason why I hated and left TWC; the so-called sliding scale. Why should it take a whiny or otherwise aggressive phone call to get a special price or special treatment? That was the biggest thing I always loved about E*. The price was set in stone. No backing down. No capitulating. And now they're turning into the very same thing I hated dealing with (as a customer) or hearing about (as a tech). Last week I did a 622 upgrade for a customer who complained enough that he got a 622 for $89 (!!!!!) AND he was getting the $10/month for 10 months discount. Worse...he was STILL b***ing that it was too much.

**Jason Whiddon** · 06-12-2007 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by zbender

RE: Capacity word

the postings in this thread regarding capacity are true but D* has the one up on E* in the carriage agreement category. E* seems to always have lagged in getting the agreements or forking up the $$$ (i.e. MLB deal) to get the deals done. E* has more capacity right now for addtl HD stations but hasn't paid the $$ to get the agreements right?

Diff between E* and D* is E* doesn't boast about what they dont yet have.

Charlie stated that there would be 6-8 nationals coming online this year and that E* was in talks with most of them. He also said that some channels coming were just talking heads and wouldnt offer much.

SmithsonianHD is one Im very interested in and he mentioned it last night, they are making an HD only channel.

**dfergie** · 06-12-2007 09:45 AM

I liked Charlies answer on the 100 channels... I have both providers, but right now Dishnetwork has the channels and the picture quality, DirecTv has Sports and thats about it...